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Re: Double the price for a receipt

Postby Sotos » Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:38 pm

It is not uncommon for the buyer not to take a receipt so the buyer can save the VAT and the Seller the income tax. But the max you can save with this is 15% ... not 50%!!! And such thing is of course illegal! But I am not sure if the illegality is committed only by the one who is not giving the receipt or also by the buyer who agrees to such transaction.
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Re: Double the price for a receipt

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:46 pm

Sotos wrote:It is not uncommon for the buyer not to take a receipt so the buyer can save the VAT and the Seller the income tax. But the max you can save with this is 15% ... not 50%!!! And such thing is of course illegal! But I am not sure if the illegality is committed only by the one who is not giving the receipt or also by the buyer who agrees to such transaction.


By both, of course. They are both screwing the government out of taxes. One is aiding and abetting the other to commit a crime. It's no different than a Prostitute and her "John". They are both engaging in a illegal act where prostitution is not legal. Same with those trying to evade paying taxes on goods and income.

Btw, it has been a common practise in the past in Turkey for giving the option to the customer if they wanted a receipt or not for a reduced price. Many customers of course took the reduction rather than take the receipt at higher coast. I'm not so sure if the practice still continues there today.
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Re: Double the price for a receipt

Postby Sotos » Thu Jul 07, 2011 3:51 pm

But would it be easy to convict the buyer in such a case? Is the buyer obligated to demand a receipt if this is not offered to him by the seller?
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Re: Double the price for a receipt

Postby Kikapu » Thu Jul 07, 2011 4:16 pm

Sotos wrote:But would it be easy to convict the buyer in such a case? Is the buyer obligated to demand a receipt if this is not offered to him by the seller?


Only few times you make a transaction where a receipt is not given automatically, specially if a register is used or a credit card and a bank card. Such transactions would automatically reserve governments share of taxes. Only in cash transactions where one can hide money. If the customer is buying food at a open market where cash is commonly used, then no, the customer will not be guilty of aiding an abetting, but if the customer is given the choice to pay the normal price and receive a receipt or pay a reduced price with no receipt at a place where receipts are common part of the transaction, then the customer should also be held liable in aiding and abetting a crime to lose tax money for the government. On anything important purchases such as vehicles, computers, electronic and so on where the customer would rather take a reduction in money than a receipt, is a very foolish person, since they have no recourse in many instances to get their money back if they end up with a lemon product.
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Re: Double the price for a receipt

Postby alessandromorelli » Thu Jul 07, 2011 7:33 pm

T.I.C........surprised to find smth illegal in this country?
here, almost nothing can be considered legal......evenif they pretend to be in europe, they're far away from an european country
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Re: Double the price for a receipt

Postby CBBB » Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:00 pm

alessandromorelli wrote:T.I.C........surprised to find smth illegal in this country?
here, almost nothing can be considered legal......evenif they pretend to be in europe, they're far away from an european country


Wasn't it the Italians that started keeping multiple sets of accounts, Alessandro (sounds Italian to me)?
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Re: Double the price for a receipt

Postby Mikiko » Thu Jul 07, 2011 8:10 pm

This is very common with doctors as they normally do not issue a receipt . :x

I asked one technician once to pay no VAT and not a receipt but he refused :oops: . This is just nothing If you compare what high officials do behind closed doors . I believe that the people who are there to serve the law are the first to bend the rules and the laws to their own benefit so YOu will be an exception If you obey the law to every detail . :mrgreen:
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Re: Double the price for a receipt

Postby SKI-preo » Fri Jul 08, 2011 2:00 am

This one is just complain complain,complain, complain.Are you related to my mother inlaw?
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Re: Double the price for a receipt

Postby kurupetos » Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:35 pm

alessandromorelli wrote:T.I.C........surprised to find smth illegal in this country?
here, almost nothing can be considered legal......evenif they pretend to be in europe, they're far away from an european country

Yes, we are like Italians. Only difference we're well-endowed. 8)
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Re: Double the price for a receipt

Postby B25 » Fri Jul 08, 2011 1:40 pm

alessandromorelli wrote:T.I.C........surprised to find smth illegal in this country?
here, almost nothing can be considered legal......evenif they pretend to be in europe, they're far away from an european country


Hark the man with morals, he wants to share his wife with complete strangers in the meeting forum and he has to say about legalities, hey mafiosi, va va .......

oh, I can't remember the rest of that bastard language.

Ciao.

Wheres Daniella when you need her????
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