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Re: Happy 4th of July.....

Postby Cap » Mon Jul 04, 2011 8:59 pm

Filitsa wrote:"Dimbo ernall," Cap? :D


Was just messing about.
Happy independence for all you Americano's.

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Re: Happy 4th of July.....

Postby Filitsa » Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:30 pm

SineNomine wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
SineNomdine wrote:Happy 4th July - but.....sorry the "God Bless" bit really makes me want to puke.... :roll:



Why ?

Shouldn't every country be blessed by God, whether one is religious or not ?

I'm not religious btw.


Declaring a country to be "blessed by God" (which, by the way,seems unique to the US) implies that they believe the actions of that country are "blessed by God" too -dangerous thinking!!! :shock:


SineNomine, I think you have the syntax confused. "God bless America" is not a declarative statement; it is an imperative
one - a request, a prayer. It is the same as saying "God, please bestow your blessings upon America." If the statement were "God has blessed America," then I would agree that the statement was declarative, but even then I would ask, "What is dangerous about recognizing one's blessings?"

Following is a hymn for America. Some call it a patriotic song because it is often heard on national holidays, but they are wrong. It's a hymn and it is prayerful.

God Bless America

God bless America
Land that I love
Stand beside her
And guide her
Through the night
With a light
From above

From the mountains
To the prairies
To the oceans
White with foam
God bless America
My home sweet home
God bless America
My home sweet home

Would the meaning of the prayer change if "Cyprus" were substituted for "America"? I think not, as it is simply beseeching God's blessings no matter the object of the blessings. That said, please explain the logic behind your understanding of how a prayer of this kind implies "that 'they' believe the actions of that country are "blessed by God." I sing this hymn, I pray this prayer, and I don't believe such a thing. In fact, I've been known to ask God to bless America, particularly when I don't condone her actions.

So God bless America, Cyprus, Turkey, Greece, the UK, Australia, and the lot. And God bless you.
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Re: Happy 4th of July.....

Postby kurupetos » Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:50 pm

Bog off!
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Re: Happy 4th of July.....

Postby Kikapu » Mon Jul 04, 2011 9:52 pm

Filitsa wrote:
SineNomine wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
SineNomdine wrote:Happy 4th July - but.....sorry the "God Bless" bit really makes me want to puke.... :roll:



Why ?

Shouldn't every country be blessed by God, whether one is religious or not ?

I'm not religious btw.


Declaring a country to be "blessed by God" (which, by the way,seems unique to the US) implies that they believe the actions of that country are "blessed by God" too -dangerous thinking!!! :shock:


SineNomine, I think you have the syntax confused. "God bless America" is not a declarative statement; it is an imperative
one - a request, a prayer. It is the same as saying "God, please bestow your blessings upon America." If the statement were "God has blessed America," then I would agree that the statement was declarative, but even then I would ask, "What is dangerous about recognizing one's blessings?"

Following is a hymn for America. Some call it a patriotic song because it is often heard on national holidays, but they are wrong. It's a hymn and it is prayerful.

God Bless America

God bless America
Land that I love
Stand beside her
And guide her
Through the night
With a light
From above

From the mountains
To the prairies
To the oceans
White with foam
God bless America
My home sweet home
God bless America
My home sweet home

Would the meaning of the prayer change if "Cyprus" were substituted for "America"? I think not, as it is simply beseeching God's blessings no matter the object of the blessings. That said, please explain the logic behind your understanding of how a prayer of this kind implies "that 'they' believe the actions of that country are "blessed by God." I sing this hymn, I pray this prayer, and I don't believe such a thing. In fact, I've been known to ask God to bless America, particularly when I don't condone her actions.

So God bless America, Cyprus, Turkey, Greece, the UK, Australia, and the lot. And God bless you.


Nice one, Filitsa. :D
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Re: Happy 4th of July.....

Postby Filitsa » Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:19 am

kurupetos wrote:Bog off!




... And God bless Kuru too ... :D
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Re: Happy 4th of July.....

Postby kurupetos » Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:29 am

Filitsa wrote:
kurupetos wrote:Bog off!




... And God bless Kuru too ... :D

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Re: Happy 4th of July.....

Postby Filitsa » Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:31 am

Kikapu wrote:
Filitsa wrote:
SineNomine wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
SineNomdine wrote:Happy 4th July - but.....sorry the "God Bless" bit really makes me want to puke.... :roll:



Why ?

Shouldn't every country be blessed by God, whether one is religious or not ?

I'm not religious btw.


Declaring a country to be "blessed by God" (which, by the way,seems unique to the US) implies that they believe the actions of that country are "blessed by God" too -dangerous thinking!!! :shock:


SineNomine, I think you have the syntax confused. "God bless America" is not a declarative statement; it is an imperative
one - a request, a prayer. It is the same as saying "God, please bestow your blessings upon America." If the statement were "God has blessed America," then I would agree that the statement was declarative, but even then I would ask, "What is dangerous about recognizing one's blessings?"

Following is a hymn for America. Some call it a patriotic song because it is often heard on national holidays, but they are wrong. It's a hymn and it is prayerful.

God Bless America

God bless America
Land that I love
Stand beside her
And guide her
Through the night
With a light
From above

From the mountains
To the prairies
To the oceans
White with foam
God bless America
My home sweet home
God bless America
My home sweet home

Would the meaning of the prayer change if "Cyprus" were substituted for "America"? I think not, as it is simply beseeching God's blessings no matter the object of the blessings. That said, please explain the logic behind your understanding of how a prayer of this kind implies "that 'they' believe the actions of that country are "blessed by God." I sing this hymn, I pray this prayer, and I don't believe such a thing. In fact, I've been known to ask God to bless America, particularly when I don't condone her actions.

So God bless America, Cyprus, Turkey, Greece, the UK, Australia, and the lot. And God bless you.


Nice one, Filitsa. :D


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Re: Happy 4th of July.....

Postby Filitsa » Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:39 am

kurupetos wrote:
Filitsa wrote:
kurupetos wrote:Bog off!




... And God bless Kuru too ... :D


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:lol: ,,, moi?
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Re: Happy 4th of July.....

Postby DT. » Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:56 am

Nice 4th ofJuly. Spent it watching the fireworks from a mates roof terrace in Boston. Impressive stuff!
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Re: Happy 4th of July.....

Postby Filitsa » Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:11 am

... Watched the same from the Cambridge side of the river. First time I ventured in on 4th of July, and it was well worth it. The Bostonians were very well behaved. Hope you're enjoying your stay.
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