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by **Kikapu** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:09 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
cymart wrote:If Erdogan offers to return Varosha under U.N. control,along with opening Turkeys ports/airports to G.C's,then Christophias could agree to open the ports in the north under E.U. control for the T.C's.Ercan Airport would still be the sticking point if Erdogan insists on it,although opening it under international control might solve that problem?Offering G.C's the right to return to Varosha under T.C. control has been tried before and would not be accepted so it would be a pointless gesture to do the same again.Suggesting that Turkey would otherwise renovate Varosha and open it is also a non-starter-it would cost billions and anyway,most of the damage to it was done either through Turkish intent after 1974 when they looted it systematically or by the sheer stupidity of keeping it closed and abandoned for so many years!

Why not TC administration? why is fine for us to be forced into this position and not the other way around. Isnt a BBF along the same principles?

I told you VP does not understand how BBF under Federation works. He only thinks of BBF under AP, which was a Confederation. :wink:

by **humanist** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 3:22 pm

Basically what needs to happen is for the UN to implement action and that being economic embargoes on Turkey till it remoives its occupation troops from Cyprus immediately and then Turkey will be considered as an EU member State, the embargoes lifted and Cyprus is free
. Our EU partners have let us down big time. we know the Brits will back stab Cyprus in a jiffy but ther whole of the EU is a disappointment

by **jahitty** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:19 pm

i completely and absoltely agree with you regarding the EU, they have been part of the problem not the solution, if they really had the balls or competence and integrity then they would have been much harder on Turkey by using thier economic leverage. They are liars just like all of the imperial powers that have raped Cyprus.

by **Bananiot** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 4:34 pm

Why do you doggedly deprive yourself of the understanding of how international relations work? Are you really that naive or is there something else you are trying to put forward? Do you really believe that international relations are based on moral principles? Do you also believe that justice is solely on our side?

by **jahitty** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:15 pm

No i dont beleive that, all im saying is that the EU has lost all credibility over thier stance on Cyprus, i know how international relations work, I dont think the EU does!

by **humanist** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:32 pm

EU is not supporting its fellow State nations because they are samll and really not significant as the big players. Shame EU.

Secondly in terns of bizonal then the portion of thr TC state ought to be 18% of land mass that means they have to give up a fair bit of land. Tha should be west of Gialousa and north of the current road leading to Apostolos andreas

by **cymart** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 6:39 pm

FORGET THESE RUMOURS!The Turkish Army press office said today that only annual routine clearance of grass and weeds is taking place in Varosha to reduce fire hazards and nothing else should be assumed!

by **Pyrpolizer** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 8:05 pm

Bananiot wrote:Why do you doggedly deprive yourself of the understanding of how international relations work? Are you really that naive or is there something else you are trying to put forward? Do you really believe that international relations are based on moral principles? Do you also believe that justice is solely on our side?

Believe it or not international relations are not based on sheer interests either.

by **Bananiot** » Thu Jun 30, 2011 10:41 pm

Sorry jahity, actually that was meant for Humanist, not you. Humanist said that our problem is easy, that is, get the UN resolutions implemented and you are home and dry. He forgets though that it is the UN that tells us that solution will be based on mutual compromises. Of course they didn't asked B25 and he will get very angry now.

by **wyoming cowboy** » Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:01 am

bill cobbett wrote:Rumours abound that Turkish PM Erdogone will be making a sensational proposal on the matter of Occupied Famagusta. There are reports of a big clean-up going on in preparation of his visit there on or about the 20th July.

Will the scheming bugger be proposing a return of the Varoshiotes under a Turkish Admin???????

More at ...http://famagusta-gazette.com/turkey-may ... 296-69.htm

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