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[Bananiot]

It is all about wishful thinking jahitty. They close their eyes and wish Turkey to go away, just like a bad dream. Naivety, mixed with the extreme nationalism of B25 and his likes will definitely kick Turkey away from Cyprus or at best bring the "KKTC" to its knees. In the meantime, I was at Palouriotissa two nights ago, visiting friends. In the two hours I stayed on their veranda, I counted seven airplanes taking off from the so called Tympou airport (Ercan).

[B25]

It is all about wishful thinking jahitty. They close their eyes and wish Turkey to go away, just like a bad dream. Naivety, mixed with the extreme nationalism of B25 and his likes will definitely kick Turkey away from Cyprus or at best bring the "KKTC" to its knees. In the meantime, I was at Palouriotissa two nights ago, visiting friends. In the two hours I stayed on their veranda, I counted seven airplanes taking off from the so called Tympou airport (Ercan).

Only a turk, turk symathyser or carpet shagger would refer to the 'trnc' as the 'kktc'.

The turkish mouth piece strikes again, he is willing to give up our country to please his chums on the dark side.

Yeah, go for it Bananiotoglu, you may even earn yourself some Turkish citizenship. Plonker.

[jahitty]

It doesnt mean I along with many others have given up hope, in fact I dont beleive our destiny is in cypriot hands unless there is genuine unity between the majority of cypriots. The TRNC has been on its knees since its inception, the left are more and more vocal and will continue to be so but unless there is a real change from actors external to cyprus and like i said a genuine unity from a larger portion of cypriot society then we will carry on dissenting just as we are. I reckon even som core members of the UBP puppet theatre troupe are concerned about Turkeys recent stepping up of thier buisness aqausitions in the North. Dont get me wrong, ive been out on countless protests against the regime, but at the end of the day we dissenting voices are sadly thin on the ground.

[Bananiot]

Have you forgotten B25 that all dogs are the same?
Dog = kopek

[Jerry]

Im afraid Turkey leaving cyprus is wishful thinking, think about how much they have invested in the 'TRNC', they would never give that up, its not in her DNA,currently the UBP puppets are on the most aggressive privatisation campaign ever witnessed in the North, that even inlcudes selling large parts of the coastline! Its pretty obvious who the buyers are, the famagusta port is also being sold either to an italian or arab firm. Although your right about her economy and the trade deficit being a very large elephant in the room, she is incapable of withdrawing from Cyprus. Part of her final partition strategy were the big spending cuts recently imposed, another measure to equalize and intergrate the TRNC into the Turkish economy along with with the truly frighteneing privatisation schemes going full steam ahead. The best offer Turkey would make is handing back some land for recognition of the TRNC, but that would be just a bluff, they know the GC,s would never accept that. It pains me to say it, but I beleive its partition and final absorption into the Turkish state unless the GC's accept political equality, which also will never happen! Turkish buisness interests run far too deep for a fair solution.

So, what you are saying is that Turkish interests in Cyprus are greater than those it has with the EU, do you really believe that? Turkey has , traditionally, had strategic interests in Cyprus because of Greece. The now bankrupt Greece can hardly be considered a threat any more and the GCs certainly don't seek union with that country.

Turkey has no good reason to hang on to the island apart from "pride". The EU has dismissed the impostion of guarantees in Cyprus in the event of a solution so Turkey is left with only one choice if it wants to stay - illegal annexation of the north. Somehow I can't see the EU, UN, and international Courts ever accepting that scenario. Annexation of an EU State would mean that Turkey would never be able to join that club, even in fifty years time. It would probably result in the end of the Customs Union and inward investment from EU countries - the Lira would nosedive.

As for bits of Cyprus being sold off to Italians etc, I think the very recent Gary Robb saga will stop such events dead in their tracks.

[Pyrpolizer]

I don't think Turkey wants to annex the occupied. Even if she wanted to, she wouldn't dare for various reasons as others already said. I believe Turkey wants the occupied to serve her as an unofficial protectorate. For the moment it doesn't cost her anything other than some difficulties in her EU road, the occupied serve her in various ways, and even provide real profits to Turkish companies as jahity said, who most probably fill up the pockets of a lot of of politicians and Generals in Turkey....

Bananiot, by my ottoman turkish the dog is also "it". It urur-->the dog barks

Back to the main topic now:I heard those "rumors" a few days ago and I was about to open a new topic in the forum. I searched all the newspapers the next day, found nothing.! The only one who had this "news" was the Cyprus mail, and even that was attributing it to "turkish sources".
From my experience Turkish newspapers do this 'passing of rumors" so frequently that not even 1% of the times they are really rumors, and from that not even 1% ever becomes a true. It's just a tactic they follow in trying to pass their own ideas...
The only truth in that is that Erdogan will visit the fenced area of Varoshia just to get a first hand experience.imho nothing more than that...

[Viewpoint]

I predicted this a few weeks ago. Open up Maras under the TRNC flag and allow previous owners to return.

[Jerry]

I predicted this a few weeks ago. Open up Maras under the TRNC flag and allow previous owners to return.

A really convincing attempt at trying to prove how stupid you are, you may "allow " the real owners to return but none of them would.

Put your brain into gear before you post. Turkey (not "trnc") "allows" GCs to return - GCs invest billions in their own city - Turkey launches another "peace operation" in Varosha.

[Viewpoint]

No you wake up to reality and try to use all your brain who has control and has to grant permission fr its usage? Turkey or us its all the same to you so the offer is there GCs can return if they live in the TRNC, no need for a peace operation it will be part of the TRNC.

[Kikapu]

I predicted this a few weeks ago. Open up Maras under the TRNC flag and allow previous owners to return.

Yes, you did state the above few weeks ago, but there is nothing there there yet, therefore it cannot be a prediction yet, if ever.

But for the sake of argument, if what you "predicted" were to come true, why would the GCs move to Varosha to make huge investments to fix it up, pay taxes to support the occupation of the north and still be treated worse than other foreigners in their own country where they will not be able to leave their properties to their heirs under the north's Racists policies.? What would be the incentive for them to move to Varosha.?