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Re: greek mess

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:29 am

B25 wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:All over the UK too - adverts on TV for the last couple of years. Leaflets through the doors - gold wanted, any condition. And shops opening up buying gold where the recession has forced the closure of regular shops.

Didn't notice any in Cyprus and I've been there a lot over the last few months - plus visited a few jewelers :D - only one I recall had a sign to buy gold (in Pano Paphos). But it was a normal jeweler.


They are all over in cyprus, signs everywhere, cubbyhole shops open just to buy the gold.

Seems people feel safe with their money in gold these days!


I suppose they are in the seedier parts of Nicosia and Larnaca. Lots of people coming over from Lebanon and such like places with tacky gold baubles ...
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Re: greek mess

Postby GreekIslandGirl » Wed Jun 20, 2012 2:47 pm

Onward and upward. :)

Greece has done its bit to save the Eurozone and now let's hope they can reduce some of the burden they have been landed with:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18515185

Test case over. The scapegoat has survived. Next, Spain. Good luck. Follow the vanguard Greeks towards a United States of Europe ...



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Re: greek mess

Postby Lordo » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:15 pm

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Onward and upward. :)

Greece has done its bit to save the Eurozone and now let's hope they can reduce some of the burden they have been landed with:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18515185

Test case over. The scapegoat has survived. Next, Spain. Good luck. Follow the vanguard Greeks towards a United States of Europe ...



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Not at all. The problem has just began. How are they going to pay for the mess?
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Re: greek mess

Postby kurupetos » Wed Jun 20, 2012 3:45 pm

Lordo wrote:
GreekIslandGirl wrote:Onward and upward. :)

Greece has done its bit to save the Eurozone and now let's hope they can reduce some of the burden they have been landed with:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18515185

Test case over. The scapegoat has survived. Next, Spain. Good luck. Follow the vanguard Greeks towards a United States of Europe ...



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Not at all. The problem has just began. How are they going to pay for the mess?

They don't have to. The EU will pay. :roll:
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Re: greek mess

Postby Lordo » Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:30 pm

Really? at what price? Ask the average Greek to see how they feel about it. My thoughts are with the ordinary Greek People who did not cause this mess and are paying the price of it.
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Re: greek mess

Postby PC Bubble » Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:42 pm

Arab Island Girl.

Greece has saved the Eurozone !...What a laugh !

They started all this crap by being idle, lazy ,lying and corrupt to the core.

There troubles has just begun and their Arab Cypriot mates are not far behind them.

No luck with the begging bowl yet ?
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Re: greek mess

Postby kimon07 » Wed Jun 20, 2012 9:30 pm

PC Bubble wrote:Arab Island Girl.

Greece has saved the Eurozone !...What a laugh !

They started all this crap by being idle, lazy ,lying and corrupt to the core.

There troubles has just begun and their Arab Cypriot mates are not far behind them.

No luck with the begging bowl yet ?


PCB. Don't you think it would be more useful for you to deal with your own never ending troubles?


HPG: Over a hundred soldiers died in Hakkari –FLASH
20 June 2012

Intense military activity continues in Dağlıca region since Tuesday
In a statement on guerrilla forces’ attacks on military bases in Şemdinli and Yüksekova districts of Hakkari, People’s Defense Forces Press Office HPG-BIM reported that 109 soldiers died and 100 others were wounded in clashes which started on 19 July morning and still continue in some areas with the support of war planes, cobra helicopters and howitzers.

HPG-BIM stated that four skorsky helicopters were shot down and nine others were damaged in clashes which claimed the lives of 15 guerrillas. The names of killed guerrillas will be declared soon, added HPG-BIM.

In yesterday’s and today’s statements on guerrilla attacks and the operation in the area, Turkish authorities claimed that eight soldiers were killed and 19 were wounded while over 20 guerrillas died in clashes.


http://en.firatnews.com/index.php?rupel ... uceID=4831


Unsafe outposts, security flaws under spotlight in wake of Dağlıca attack

20 June 2012 / BETÜL AKKAYA DEMİRBAŞ, İSTANBUL

Eight soldiers who were killed in a terrorist attack on a military outpost in the Dağlıca area of Hakkari province on Tuesday have been laid to rest, but the events leading up to their deaths remain the subject of serious questions which authorities have not yet answered.
Terrorism experts complain that the soldiers -- mostly in their early 20s -- were sent to serve in the far-east corner of Turkey only after a couple of weeks of military training and forced to encamp at an unsafe outpost. The outpost, located among high and rocky mountains, was once built as part of Turkey's efforts to curb smuggling in the region, but has remained neglected. The government vowed to reinforce outposts in the country's eastern and southeastern regions after bloody terrorist attacks claimed the lives of dozens of soldiers in the past few years, but the reinforcements have not yet been completed. According to terrorism experts, young and inexperienced soldiers are left to their fate at the hands of terrorists in poorly equipped outposts.
“There were plans to reinforce those outposts or move them to safer places, but the work to that end has not been completed. The plans are constantly delayed. Either the terrorist organization sets vehicles used in the construction of new outposts on fire or short-term cease-fires declared by the organization mislead authorities, who then delay the construction of new outposts. The outposts should have already been reinforced or moved to safer locations,” lamented Mithat Işık, a retired colonel.
In the early morning hours on Tuesday, a group of around 200 terrorists of the Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) attacked the Yeşiltaş Military Outpost with rocket launchers and rifles, killing eight soldiers and wounding 16 others. In subsequent clashes, troops killed at least 24 PKK terrorists. The terrorists were believed to have crossed the border from northern Iraq to carry out the attack and then retreated across the border.
The military initiated a large-scale operation in Dağlıca to capture the fleeing terrorists, but has not responded to questions about possible military flaws in the attack. Government officials have remained silent, too.

http://www.todayszaman.com/news-284140- ... ttack.html
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Re: greek mess

Postby Nikitas » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:10 pm

Boomerang, you asked:

"has anyone noticed signs stating "We buy gold" and approx. how long have they been up?"

There has been a flyer campaign for about a year now in Athens. they drop circulars in letter boxes, stick them on cars. Every major shopping street has a shop with a sign re buying gold, most media carry adverts.

A couple of months ago a van was stopped at the border, loaded with gold melted from jewellery. The German driver and co driver were arrested and charged with unregistered gold dealing. No doubt they will be found not guilty since we all know that Germans do not do crooked stuff.

These gold dealers are banking on gold prices going up, and on shtucking the sellers with weird carat calculations. When the price drops they will be in deep manure. Gold has never held on record highs for longer than a few months.
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Re: greek mess

Postby supporttheunderdog » Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:02 am

GreekIslandGirl wrote:Onward and upward. :)

Greece has done its bit to save the Eurozone and now let's hope they can reduce some of the burden they have been landed with:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18515185

Test case over. The scapegoat has survived. Next, Spain. Good luck. Follow the vanguard Greeks towards a United States of Europe ...



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no, Greece has started to save it self - I hope this government survives but it has a long way to go amd there is no certainty even from the beeb article you quote that Germany and the rest of the net contributors to the EU and Eurozone project will accpet significant cahnges to the austerity plans. It os however a start and there is some hope for the people of Greece, but the Government of Greece has got to make fundamental changes to spending plans.

Same for Cyprus,where Chris Toffee arse is mortgaging our future at high interests rates to avoid upsetting his bum chums in the civil service and public sectror, who enjoy significantly better employment benefits than most private sector workers , funded by us the tax payers of Cyprus#.

In any event the fate of the Euro involves more than Greece: Euro 600bn has to be purd into Spain and Italy, but that is only propping up the tottering edifice and does nothing to solve the underlying problems of profligate governments, eg Greece, or reckless *ankers, e.g. Spain, Cyprus, where if the banks ran themselves properly we would not need the heavy hand of reguators to control their lending to dubious borrowers who were unlikely to be able to pay back what they borrowed, eg the Government of Greece, property developers, = Vgemopolous is to blame for for the problems at Popular bank because he was in charge of the bank and its lending! Dont blme the regulator for the *ankers own short0comings but then he too appears to be a bum chum of Chrris Toffee arse and like him not willing to accept blame for his own FUBARs. !

So what did the Greek do for Cyprus? One of them, Vgenopoulos, brought down a bank and put the government into the sorry position ogf having to beg help from the Eu to bail it out.

Uunited states of Europe ? I hope not in my lieftime or that of my grandchildren. . Its all a scam to acheive by stealth what Hitler and Napoleon tried to do by force.
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Re: greek mess

Postby supporttheunderdog » Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:25 am

PC Bubble wrote:Arab Island Girl.

Greece has saved the Eurozone !...What a laugh !

They started all this crap by being idle, lazy ,lying and corrupt to the core.

There troubles has just begun and their Arab Cypriot mates are not far behind them.

No luck with the begging bowl yet ?


As a matter of interest which Arab island Cypriots are you discussing ? The Turkish speaking variety or the Greek speaking variety: I cannot speak for the ancestry of GIG but the evidence tends to suggest that strip away acquired and superficial charteristics such as language and culture and get down to something which is scientifically measurable such a DnA that both come from the same gene pool which has probbaly been pretty stable for close to 7000 years. Yes there have been invaders who made some small splashes but probably most true Cypriots (ands I exclude the post 1974 settlers) can trace most of their ancestors back to that orginal settlement, indeed looking at the J haplotype which is at its highest in Arabia the Anatolians may well be have more Arab ancestry than the Cypriots.
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