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[Me Ed]

@ Anna-gr

First to welcome you warmly.

Secondly to congratulate you for your excelent posts.

Thirdly a piece of advise. You will find some people here who's motto is: Ouk an me peiseis kan me peiseis. Don't worry much about them. They are, in any case, very "far away" and I don't mean in terms of dinstances.

Additionally: You will notice most of the ones I referred to before, are intentionally and systematically derailing all posts, regardless of their topic, to anti-greek/pro-greek discussions and to subjects such as: are Greek Cypriots Greeks or not etc. Try not to be dragged in that as it's also contrary to the forum rules (I mean the derailing of the subject of the topic). Subjects like that have been and can be discussed under existing threads in the forum dealing specifically with them.

Otherwise my opinion is that the quality of the Forum is quite good and keeps improving. Hope you will stick around to help in that.

Anna-gr welcome to the forum.

I'm not in the business of telling people how to conduct themselves on this forum, but I want to tell you that there is a third way other than Greek vs. Turk or having a pro-Greek vs anti-Greek stance

There are those of us who are pro-Cypriot, that believe that Cyprus should stand independent from Greece and the existence of cultural differences between the people of Greece and Cyprus bourne out of our history including our colonial past.

Unfortunately many people on this forum interpret this as being anti-Greek.

[boomerang]

@ Anna-gr

First to welcome you warmly.

Secondly to congratulate you for your excelent posts.

Thirdly a piece of advise. You will find some people here who's motto is: Ouk an me peiseis kan me peiseis. Don't worry much about them. They are, in any case, very "far away" and I don't mean in terms of dinstances.

Additionally: You will notice most of the ones I referred to before, are intentionally and systematically derailing all posts, regardless of their topic, to anti-greek/pro-greek discussions and to subjects such as: are Greek Cypriots Greeks or not etc. Try not to be dragged in that as it's also contrary to the forum rules (I mean the derailing of the subject of the topic). Subjects like that have been and can be discussed under existing threads in the forum dealing specifically with them.

Otherwise my opinion is that the quality of the Forum is quite good and keeps improving. Hope you will stick around to help in that.

since you didn't listen to your own advice and derailed the topic, here is another little gem from anna that struck you as worthy of excellent posting...

There is no doubt, the situation in Greece is a real mess.

It is true that most of our politicians were very corrupt. They stole public funds from major infrastructure projects (mostly funded by the EU) and deposited those funds into their private Swiss Bank Accounts. Whenever Greece would buy weapons from US or Germany, more funds would be stolen.

But that is not all. Business would cheat on their tax. Anyone who could would avoid as much tax as possible, including workers who were connected with tax officials who would take bribes to overlook matters.

It is not only the politicuians. It is the people as well. Every family uses their contacts to appoint their kids into Government jobs. Often jobs are created out of nothing.

The Greek "mentality" needs to change. It is obvious.

Even with this crisis, many of us look to lay blame elsewhere. This is the sad state in which Greece finds itself today.

The Greek Banking sector is also about to collapse. And if Greece leaves the Eurozone, then I don't want to be in Greece to see the social fabric collapse to nothing.

Greece is hitting the self destruct button. It has been a non functioning country unable to sustain itself for decades. It was only a matter of time before all this corruption and falseness came to a head.

kinda what teddy, georgie and i were saying, and you coming out with your toy guns blazing...
in case you are wondering...
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus37993.html

a greek breaking cardinal rules calling politicians, business and every day folk corrupt bleating the country...hey kimon what does the i wanna be greek for dummies say about breaking cardinal rules?...but i forgot you called that excellent posting...idiot only i can say this because i have been saying the same all along...even blind freddy can see this...you on the other hand was busy trying to derail, called greeks idiots for electing georgie and to top it all you couldn't see anything wrong with greece...obviously you are not in a position to debate jack shit coz you side with new democracy, coz you found no faults with them, as anna righly pointed out...at least anna was honest in her breakdown of the problem...

just to break it down for you, you spend a post telling us how the papadreou clan was corrupt and should have been percecuted but the greeks elected him as prime minister...this little gem of yours tells me 2 things...
1...greeks voted corruption when voted for georgie
OR
2...greeks are idiots voting for georgie knowing he was corrupt...
well which one is little kimmon?..1 or 2...

Anna was right in calling you either old and i am adding senile, OR uneducated...
well which one is it kimon, old and senile OR uneducated...

i told you before and i will tell you again i met a lot of simple people but you and your kind take the cake...

[Bananiot]

double post

[Bananiot]

The sad thing is that every thing Madame Lagarde said is totally correct. By the way, its "Ου με πείσεις, καν με πείσεις"

[boomerang]

The sad thing is that every thing Madame Lagarde said is totally correct.

yeah but what does know bananiot?...

her ancestry reads like
1/10 german
1/10 german frence
1/10 german austrian
1/10 german english
1/10 german swedish
1/10 german albanian
1/10 german russian
1/10 german american
1/10 german japanese
1/10 german danish

[observer]

The sad thing is that every thing Madame Lagarde said is totally correct.

yeah but what does know bananiot?...

her ancestry reads like
1/10 german
1/10 german frence
1/10 german austrian
1/10 german english
1/10 german swedish
1/10 german albanian
1/10 german russian
1/10 german american
1/10 german japanese
1/10 german danish

Ok. But she was a member of the French syncronised swimming team, and that's got to count for something.

[boomerang]

not if she is 1/10 german french...

[kurupetos]

I will add her to the list...

Lagarde worked as an intern in 1974 at the United States Capitol, as Representative William Cohen's (R, ME) congressional assistant,[13] in particular working in communications with Cohen's French-speaking constituents during the Judiciary Committee Watergate hearings.

The rest of you fools can go back to bed...

[kimon07]

so you saying greece's woes started 18 months ago when georgie got in?...

Does this look like I was refering to just 18 months? I said.

Andreas Papandreou (may he RinH) was the architect and chief engineer of the extensive corruption of the public sector of Greece and the architect and the chief engineer of the bankruptcy of Greece. It was during his terms of office that his lieutenants, like Tsohatzopoulos who is now rotting in jail, and his ministers and party members and friends looted the country blind, mainly through the acquisitions of armaments, mainly from Germany but also from the US and from Russia.

Then came Simitis, the genius who is accused of having manipulated figures with the assistance of the EU and Goldman Sachs in order for Greece to be admitted to the Euro zone and whose government managed to inflate the costs of the Olympic projects three and four times above reasonable cost.

Evidently, I was refering to the periods from 1981 to 1989 (Andreas) and 1993 to at least 2004 (Andreas-Simitis) when all the dirty tricks were performed by Andreas and his mafia party.

And in my previous post I said that it took only 18 months of George in office for the Greek people to realise who he realy is and what he was doing to the country and send him to political oblivion. So you either have a problem understanding what you read or, most probably, you are twisting the meaning of my posts. So typical of you....

These kind of opinions are most unhelpful and strange as a matter of fact. But I do not blame this poster because such ideologically driven opinions are common in Greece amongst the older generations in particular and the uneducated.

Greeks support their political party through thick and thin. The only exception to the rule is now, only because many Greeks are unwilling to undergo more Austerity and reform. Once again, many Greeks are only looking at their pockets and seem to not care that much for Greece itself. It once again comes down to the Euro.

The above poster calls PASOK the "mafia" party. Whilst this may not be altogether incorrect, because they were in power for many years and did lay the foundations for cronyism, he ignores the contributions of New Democracy for also establishing and perpetuation the very same corruption and cronyism. Yet New Democracy escapes his classification of "Mafia" Party!

I do not wish to berate the above member, but merely point out that this type of attitude is common in Greece.

And these attitudes do not help Greece at all because it is these attitudes that try to lay the blame on one particular party or another without looking at the reality of the matter. New Democracy was also in power for many years and did nothing to stop corruption. Why would they? They too benefited from the corruption by stealing money and buying votes for jobs to their supporter base.

I think it was the same poster that referred to George Papandreou's heritage and ethnicity. Quite bizarre to say the least.

Yes, it is going to be hard work indeed, especially with these kind of attitudes being the norm. Not only do we have to fight corruption and injustice in our God Foresaken country, but attitudes such as these which are commonplace.

i just wonder to who the 1st paragragh was reffering to...so kimon which category do you belong the old or the uneducated...

It's only natural you don't get it. The fact that she may disagree with me and with my points of view does not change the fact that she is a good faithed poster. I welcome her once more.

[GreekIslandGirl]

The sad thing is that every thing Madame Lagarde said is totally correct. By the way, its "Ου με πείσεις, καν με πείσεις"

The sad thing is that this repulsive creature was only fit to replace the previous scandal-ridden Frenchman, who didn't know how to keep his hands off hotel maids, because of the unlikelihood she could possess any such emotions.

Otherwise, she should hang her head in shame to feign pity at Africans knowing France was responsible for raping Africa, carrying out the most number of shipments of slaves amounting to millions of unfortunate souls, and being one of the last countries to abolish slavery.

This is what she should pity - her unfortunate heritage! And try harder not to do to Europe what her countrymen did to these Africans she now pretends to be concerned about.