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[georgios100]

Argentinian President Christina Kirchner has called Britain "a crass colonial power in decline" for refusing to hold talks over the disputed Falkland Islands.
Her remarks on Thursday marked almost 30 years since Argentina and Britain fought a 10-week war over the South Atlantic islands.
"In the 21st century, [Britain] continues to be a crass colonial power in decline, because colonialism is out of date as well as unjust," said Kirchner, who is expected to run for a second term in an October presidential election.
Britain says it will only agree to sovereignty talks if the territory's residents ask it to.
"As long as the Falkland Islands want to be sovereign British territory, they should remain sovereign British territory - full stop, end of story," British Prime Minister David Cameron said in response to a question in parliament.
Kirchner rejected his comments as a display of "mediocrity bordering on stupidity".
http://aljazeera.com/news/americas/2011 ... 97606.html

Cypriots should follow suit and demand the removal of the SBAs in Cyprus. It was, is and always be Cypriot land. How much longer will it take
for the Brits to realize, IT IS TIME TO MOVE OUT OF CYPRUS BEFORE WE GET KICKED OUT!

[EricSeans]

It's not surprising to hear an Argentinian politician speaking this way about Britain, given Argentina invaded the Falklands and lost the subsequent war. It's all about votes. A big own-goal from David Cameron's ill-advised comments that brought it on.

Talking of Argies, a few years back, with UNFICYP, I got together a British commando gunner and an Argentinian marine whom he'd taken prisoner in the Falklands in 1982. It was great PR and photo op, seeing these two former enemies serving together in Cyprus the cause of peace, and it made the nationals due to a Royal visit to Argentina that day.

Speaking to the Argentinian colonel in the mess, I referred to the "Malvinas" and he talked about the "Falklands". It goes to show that at a personal level you can show respect to others even when you disagree with them at such fundamental levels. You know you're doing it, he knows he's doing it, but we're all big boys now.

But as for the Brit bases, yes of course they should go. They belong to a bygone colonial era. We need nothing more than defence forces these days - plus a good grounding in Mandarin Chinese.

Kirchner = crazed milf?

[Schnauzer]

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Surely you mean before THEY get kicked out ? (georgios100)

Leave the poor Brits alone for the time being mate, they are far too busy (along with the Yanks) having their arses kicked out of Afghanistan and other regions where they have met with a little more resistance than they anticipated. (imho)

[Bananiot]

Poor Brits? How about poor Cyps, is it not more appropriate? The Brits themselves have written hundreds or even thousands of books on the rise and fall of the British Empire and you have just discovered it! Lawrence James and Eric Haubsbaum spring to mind, but of course, reading and learning without bias is not your strong point.

[Schnauzer]

There are times when one's own perceptions greatly exceed that which may be gained from the written works of the indoctrinated.

What concerns ME, is the fact that we can no longer place any credibility upon ANY information we receive via the media, whether such is related to issues at home or abroad, it would appear that there are always undertones of deceit, corruption and chicanery. (the trademarks of modern Democracy perhaps ?).

If there be any 'Bias', I suggest you look for it within the realms of those who seek to gain from it, not difficult to recognize when one focuses on the awful events taking place in and around the Middle East in the guise of 'Democratizing' nations which have seen enough of the corruption which attends it, to reject it with a vigour which has surprised the mighty Western forces (prepared to sacrifice their young servicemen/women) who thought they were in for an easy ride. (imho)

As to the Falklands (or Malvinas), Oil has been discovered (and it's presence known for decades) therefore one wonders where the NEXT territory of campaign might be, at least in THIS situation, surely the general public and the troops that might die as a result of it, could hardly be expected to believe that the matter of 'Sovereignty' is the main issue.

Even THAT is a possibility, so expert at deception have the Western politicians become.

[georgios100]

The shrinking of "Great Britain" is on-going untill ALL "captured foreign lands" are rightfully returned to it's legal owners.

We all know this is inevitable even if it sounds or feels demoralizing to the British "imperial" appetide.

It is time to let go of all relics of Britich colonian era, regardless of the fact that some of them serve as military bases
critical to the defence department (MOD). The Brits must find other means of defence strategies since the on-going
"occupation" of foreign lands is a clear violation of numerous UN international laws.

Argentina and Cyprus, together, should challenge Britain at the international courts seeking withdrawl of Brit troops
and monetary compansation. We don't need these guys stationed in Cyprus... we never did!

Get out before you get kicked out. Do it now (still time for face saving purposes).

[Bananiot]

You have forgotten Spain and Gibraltar.

[georgios100]

I did'nt include the Spaniards because very soon, the bailout of Spain, might stop the Brits from contributing...

[supporttheunderdog]

Argentinian President Christina Kirchner has called Britain [b]"a crass colonial power in decline" [/b!

I am not going to argue with that proposition - It has been in decline since 1918 and I think the latest defence cuts really show that Britain is no longer a world power - the sad things is that British politicians do not recognise the fact and continue to give the Military tasks
which they are increasingly ill-equipped to perform.

The British Governmnet really has to make it its' mind: is going to spend tax pounds on the forces or is it going to think the virtually unthinkable, swallow British Pride and really cut back, keeping out of future operations such as Afganistan, Libya and the like. One consequence of this will be that any military need for the bases in Cyprus will probably virtually vanish, and the SBA's will be a luxury Britain can do without.

The question is then who will move in to Akrotiri?

I suggest offer it to the Yanks (at good rental) - that would probably put Turkey's nose out of joint.

[Bananiot]

Now we are talking! What is happening with the carriers STU? I read they will be scrapped. Is that so?