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Re: Land for Recognition

Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Jun 18, 2011 9:43 pm

[quote:]gain.

Anyone seen Halil? ... will stop the clock while we look for him.[/quote]

The remaining 70% want a solution my friend. The vast majority of the Kibrislis are simplistic people just like the vast majority of the Kypreos. The are not very interested for the fine political details of the solution, all they want is not suffer from a solution. The majority of them feel very embarrassed living in Kypreos houses they will be more than glad to return the properties if the government helps them to build new houses, or builds them for them. Of course there is also the scam who benefits from this stealing... This is the "depth" of their demands.
The same goes for the Kypreos. If they get the right to return and get their properties back even on a time schedule they will vote yes.90% of the Kypreos will never return anyway and at least 50% of them will sell it, but if any solution deprives them their free choice they will reject it.

NB.
1)You don't need Halil. He a representative example of a the most simplistic Kibrislis as i described above. :D
Good person, caring for his friends, a good Cypriot in general. He wants a solution
2)99% of the Cypriots have not understood a single word from the Anan Plan. They just voted by asking others. My old man voted yes because he learned he would go back to Varoshia in 100 days. Simple and straight forward reason. :wink:[/quote]

Thanks for that Pyr, ...naughty calling Halil "simplistic"... makes him out to be some kind of uneducated Anatolian peasant... :D

Ok will go with you on 70% wanting a solution, and am more than happy when you talk of the "embarrassment" of taking refuge in other people's houses... and can add that own experiences of CYs living in the Occupied Areas have been first rate, brill and very warm people with the single exception of a certain scammy unmentionable who has brought his whole village into disrepute by withdrawing an offer of a klethtico meal... but Pyro my dear, we can talk about solutions until the cows come home, and these are very important days for CY, we need to understand some of the detail of where people stand, and the international community will read the detail, they will hold CY to the details of the agreement.

We now know where VP stands, really still want answers from one or two of the other 70%, then perhaps we can move on to the other side of the cease-fire line as the OP asks, cos we need clarifications in to the meanings of the words and phrases in a future written agreement, what do they understand a BBF to mean for instance,.. and to give us an equally important grasp of how people will interpret the spirit of agreement.[/quote]


...something like freedom fighters, planting a Cypriot flag at your picnic on "the other side".

...a day where all Cypriots get in a convoy to drive around the whole island.

...grass roots demonstrations like these add to the confidence of the 70% percent who have remained silent, and who speak with their secret ballot.
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Re: Land for Recognition

Postby Paphitis » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:52 am

A BBF with one sovereignty, one citizenship and one international persona is the only way to go!

A Federated nation like all others. This is what the UN and EU want and expect, and this is what must be provided in order to secure a YES vote from the people.

Recognising and then legitimising invasion, ethnic cleansing and occupation is not something a respectable individual would consider.
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