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Re: Letter concernig illegal colonisation of Cyprus

Postby Sotos » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:39 pm

Jerry wrote:
Sotos wrote:You are wasting your time with British politicians. They don't give a fuck about Cypriots and if they have an interest in Cyprus that is only for their own interests. If you really want to get their attention then what is needed is some action by people in Cyprus against the bases. Lets go in en mass with trucks and shovels and start destroying their antennas and equipment and make them understand that they can not have a trouble free time in Cyprus and at the same time be best friends with the Turkish invaders. We should demand that they take their responsibility as guarantors of the sovereignty of Cyprus or else they are not welcomed here anymore.


Actually some of them do care about Cyprus, my late father's MP, Roger Gale, for instance.

Whilst I'm not against the protest you propose destruction of Base property will only alienate the UK Government, British residents and tourists. The Turks will simply point to it as an example of GC agression and it is bound to have consequences for the hundreds of Cypriots who work at the bases.

Ultimately the Cyprus Problem will have to be resolved by talking, it's not a good idea follow the Turkish example of using physical means to solve it.


Such problems are not solved by talking. We talk for 37 years and nothing came out of this talks! :(
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Re: Letter concernig illegal colonisation of Cyprus

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Jun 15, 2011 7:49 pm

Hateh reh Sotos mas pleeeeeeease.... amongst other things (with the NG) we've kept the Turkish Army at the ceasefire line for decades, denied recognition to the Illegal Regime and we're still in a game which Turkey claimed to have solved in 1974... and we've kept hopes alive from one generation to the next.
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Re: Letter concernig illegal colonisation of Cyprus

Postby Sotos » Wed Jun 15, 2011 8:04 pm

yes ... but the problem was not solved! Talking can help up to a point but no more that that!
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Re: Letter concernig illegal colonisation of Cyprus

Postby supporttheunderdog » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:32 pm

what people like Sotos forget was that it was CYPRIOTS both Kypreos and Kibrisi who in the early years of the Republic fought for its destruction, seeking either Enosis or Takism , who were thus the first to violate the treaties. This resulting in (a) the events of 1963 and the first really evil A Plan, the Acritas Plan, (probably written by Papa dope), with the first de facto partition og the Island. There was then inexorable progress to the events of 1974, when certain Cypriots, backed by another of the guarantor powers, Greece, realy sh*tted it up with the Coup, and (as was described by big Mak to the UN), Invasion by Greece. as it gave the Turks the excuse they had been looking for since 1955 to invade.

(Probably from 1955 onwards Enosis was a non starter).

Or would you have prefered that in 1974 Britain took on the coupists and the Greeks, alongside Turkey?
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Re: Letter concernig illegal colonisation of Cyprus

Postby Jerry » Wed Jun 15, 2011 9:48 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:what people like Sotos forget was that it was CYPRIOTS both Kypreos and Kibrisi who in the early years of the Republic fought for its destruction, seeking either Enosis or Takism , who were thus the first to violate the treaties. This resulting in (a) the events of 1963 and the first really evil A Plan, the Acritas Plan, (probably written by Papa dope), with the first de facto partition og the Island. There was then inexorable progress to the events of 1974, when certain Cypriots, backed by another of the guarantor powers, Greece, realy sh*tted it up with the Coup, and (as was described by big Mak to the UN), Invasion by Greece. as it gave the Turks the excuse they had been looking for since 1955 to invade.

(Probably from 1955 onwards Enosis was a non starter).

Or would you have prefered that in 1974 Britain took on the coupists and the Greeks, alongside Turkey?


The natives may have fought for the island's destruction Stud but they were poked with big sticks by other interested parties.

PS When I saw you had posted I thought/hoped that you were going to report that you had sent dozens of messages to those mentioned in my first post. :)
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Re: Letter concernig illegal colonisation of Cyprus

Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:02 pm

Jerry wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:what people like Sotos forget was that it was CYPRIOTS both Kypreos and Kibrisi who in the early years of the Republic fought for its destruction, seeking either Enosis or Takism , who were thus the first to violate the treaties. This resulting in (a) the events of 1963 and the first really evil A Plan, the Acritas Plan, (probably written by Papa dope), with the first de facto partition og the Island. There was then inexorable progress to the events of 1974, when certain Cypriots, backed by another of the guarantor powers, Greece, realy sh*tted it up with the Coup, and (as was described by big Mak to the UN), Invasion by Greece. as it gave the Turks the excuse they had been looking for since 1955 to invade.

(Probably from 1955 onwards Enosis was a non starter).

Or would you have prefered that in 1974 Britain took on the coupists and the Greeks, alongside Turkey?


The natives may have fought for the island's destruction Stud but they were poked with big sticks by other interested parties.


PS When I saw you had posted I thought/hoped that you were going to report that you had sent dozens of messages to those mentioned in my first post. :)



Hi Jerry and BillC, is this site any good?

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/
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Re: Letter concernig illegal colonisation of Cyprus

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Re: Letter concernig illegal colonisation of Cyprus

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:21 pm

denizaksulu wrote:Or this one-------->>>>

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/new


Gawd.... do hate petitions... very diff to get numbers.... very diff.
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Re: Letter concernig illegal colonisation of Cyprus

Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:33 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:Or this one-------->>>>

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/new


Gawd.... do hate petitions... very diff to get numbers.... very diff.


Never known you to give like that. You can ask your mates to spread the good word and so on. Also advertise it on fb too.
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Re: Letter concernig illegal colonisation of Cyprus

Postby Jerry » Wed Jun 15, 2011 11:35 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Jerry wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:what people like Sotos forget was that it was CYPRIOTS both Kypreos and Kibrisi who in the early years of the Republic fought for its destruction, seeking either Enosis or Takism , who were thus the first to violate the treaties. This resulting in (a) the events of 1963 and the first really evil A Plan, the Acritas Plan, (probably written by Papa dope), with the first de facto partition og the Island. There was then inexorable progress to the events of 1974, when certain Cypriots, backed by another of the guarantor powers, Greece, realy sh*tted it up with the Coup, and (as was described by big Mak to the UN), Invasion by Greece. as it gave the Turks the excuse they had been looking for since 1955 to invade.

(Probably from 1955 onwards Enosis was a non starter).

Or would you have prefered that in 1974 Britain took on the coupists and the Greeks, alongside Turkey?


The natives may have fought for the island's destruction Stud but they were poked with big sticks by other interested parties.


PS When I saw you had posted I thought/hoped that you were going to report that you had sent dozens of messages to those mentioned in my first post. :)



Hi Jerry and BillC, is this site any good?

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/


I think a Cyprus petition was done a couple of years ago - can't remember the exact subject. I think the TCs also started one asking for embargoes to be lifted.

You start one about illegal colonisation Deniz and I'll sign it. 100,000 sigs and we get a debate in Parliament. :D :D :D
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