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[Viewpoint]

Thats not how we were analyzing things if that were the case then the TCs dropped from Taksim to BBF with political equality.

I set out our red lines which amount to 60% now do you understand why you are having difficulty understanding where I am coming from?

[Kikapu]

a)unitary State with Kibrislis on minority status

Our biggest fear you are pouring petrol on a fire, this is totally unacceptable, why the hell are you negotiation BBF clearly you do not support it.

b)All refugees back to their homes including the Kibrislis.

How is this physically possible? When homes have been destroyed or million dollar projects have been built on disputed land.

c)Turkey out of Cyprus and complete abolishing of the treaties of guarantees. Demilitarization of Cyprus

What will we replace it with? this was number 1 on my priority list if you want it abolished you have to come up with something to replace it and ask me to accept it.

d)all settlers be sent home

All? people who have been here 37 years, married a TC? had children here? will they go to Turkey as well?

You didn't understand what i said. Read it carefully

I know what you said. What I'm saying is, you didn't understand what Pyro was saying and getting at, that's all.

I'll let him explain it to you. I don't want to steal his thunder away.

Oops. Sorry Pyro, I thought I was answering VP's post. It is that damn Avatars being in the wrong place that's causing the problem.

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[Kikapu]

[Kikapu]

Thats not how we were analyzing things if that were the case then the TCs dropped from Taksim to BBF with political equality.

I set out our red lines which amount to 60% now do you understand why you are having difficulty understanding where I am coming from?

You may have Taksim Dreams, but you don't have Taksim, but an occupation of the north by a foreign power. If you had Taksim, you would have also had recognition. You don't !

[bill cobbett]

To my mind it was all in the detail; and what an amount of detail!

With loads of percentages and many times-scales and so much of it without any base in International Law.

The next plan should be simple, and be based on easily understood Human Rights and Laws of Nations.

[EPSILON]

What we didn't like? That north Cyprus was not freed from the Turks ... that plan was giving to you 29% of our land! And if that was not enough your 18% minority was given way too many undemocratic powers. But it doesn't stop there ... 1000s of settlers would get to stay, the Turkish army would still be in Cyprus just in reduced numbers ... etc etc etc etc.

Sotos ..you are very flexible.On whar basis the T/cs themselves have any right in Cyprus? What actually is their difference with the new settlers? They came in the Island after an invation like the modern settlers. They -think- obtaint huge rights in the Island-Same happen with the new-modern settlers.

The reaction must be only one - no flexibility - not T/cs or new settlers have any right in the Island exempt the rights that the legal habitans of the place is willing to give them.

Do not mix up the times. The times are much different- either they are accepting the Worldiwide (civilized World) rules or they can return to their mountains in Anatolia.

They are behaving like an Empire is protecting them but actually they are protected by a third World state which is already in the target of the civilized world.They think that they can still control the case by the power of arms but-unfo for them- the certain power is not valid any more in our area.

Turks are counted to be about 83 million -out of which only 25 milion are really feel as such. The religion -their religion is coming very soon(particularly to T/cs) to make them feel the shock and deos!!!They will see how easy is Ankara or Istanbul to be transformed to Islamatan!!!!!