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Re: What exactly did the GCs not like about the AP?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:26 pm

Viewpoint wrote:I know all that stuff, the reality you have to come face to face with is that no solution will be 100% perfect there will have to give and take, all you Gcs want is the right to dominate and take the whole island forcing us into minority status...you have to learn that nothing will ever be the same nor will you get 100% of what you want.


If you continue to try and belittle I will respond in the same manner or worse so stop it and be civil.


You are actually belittling yourself because you actually did not know any of the above which you thought were just derogations.Furthermore if you read carefully what i wrote you will see that the "minority" had nothing to lose simply because there was too much "majority" to exchange their properties with. The only one who would lose were the Kypreos simply because they were the "majority", so as you can see being a minority in the case proved to be beneficial.

Btw stop this tune that the Kypreos "want to dominate you take the whole island and force you into minority status". You are just ridiculing yourself. You repeat the same scaremongering cliches EACH AND EVERY TIME YOU HAVE NO ARGUMENTS :mrgreen:
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Re: What exactly did the GCs not like about the AP?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:35 pm

Viewpoint wrote:I know all that stuff, the reality you have to come face to face with is that no solution will be 100% perfect there will have to give and take, all you Gcs want is the right to dominate and take the whole island forcing us into minority status...you have to learn that nothing will ever be the same nor will you get 100% of what you want.


If you continue to try and belittle I will respond in the same manner or worse so stop it and be civil.


how about both sides not get 100% of what they want? How about both of them get 60% of what they want? Are you prepared to forget about all those written guarantees you demand us time and time again in this forum?
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Re: What exactly did the GCs not like about the AP?

Postby Viewpoint » Thu Jun 16, 2011 11:37 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:I know all that stuff, the reality you have to come face to face with is that no solution will be 100% perfect there will have to give and take, all you Gcs want is the right to dominate and take the whole island forcing us into minority status...you have to learn that nothing will ever be the same nor will you get 100% of what you want.


If you continue to try and belittle I will respond in the same manner or worse so stop it and be civil.


how about both sides not get 100% of what they want? How about both of them get 60% of what they want? Are you prepared to forget about all those written guarantees you demand us time and time again in this forum?



What will you replace them with? "trust"?
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Re: What exactly did the GCs not like about the AP?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Fri Jun 17, 2011 8:30 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:I know all that stuff, the reality you have to come face to face with is that no solution will be 100% perfect there will have to give and take, all you Gcs want is the right to dominate and take the whole island forcing us into minority status...you have to learn that nothing will ever be the same nor will you get 100% of what you want.


If you continue to try and belittle I will respond in the same manner or worse so stop it and be civil.


how about both sides not get 100% of what they want? How about both of them get 60% of what they want? Are you prepared to forget about all those written guarantees you demand us time and time again in this forum?



What will you replace them with? "trust"?


I don't care with what you will replace it, or if you replace it at all. All I care is you also to get 60% of of the most important things that you want. Just tabulate me the 10-20 most important things that you want and then tell me which are the 40% of them that you should be deprived of
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Re: What exactly did the GCs not like about the AP?

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:57 pm

Security

Effective say at all levels(No loop holes)

25% Land

North State

Economic support in the first years
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Re: What exactly did the GCs not like about the AP?

Postby B25 » Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:19 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Security - We all want this, so get the F outta Cyprus.

Effective say at all levels(No loop holes) - Sure, you can have as much say as the Kurds currently do, happy now?

25% Land - There is plenty of Land in Turkey for you, just ask the Kurds first if they will allow it.

North State - No such thing exists, we'll give this one a miss.

Economic support in the first years - Of course, I am sure your motherland will wish to continue supporting you when you get there, when do you leave?
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Re: What exactly did the GCs not like about the AP?

Postby ZoC » Sat Jun 18, 2011 1:24 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Security

Effective say at all levels(No loop holes)

25% Land

North State

Economic support in the first years


christ, i wish we'd gone to school together. i'd have loved pummelling u to within an inch of ur life at play time.
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Re: What exactly did the GCs not like about the AP?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:58 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Security

Effective say at all levels(No loop holes)

25% Land

North State

Economic support in the first years


Actually my question was to name me all the things that you WANT and tell me which are the 40% of them that you are willing to lose so as to reach a solution.

What you said above is 100% of what you want and if you add the economic support for the first years that goes up to 105% :lol:
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Re: What exactly did the GCs not like about the AP?

Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:21 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Security

Effective say at all levels(No loop holes)

25% Land

North State

Economic support in the first years


Actually my question was to name me all the things that you WANT and tell me which are the 40% of them that you are willing to lose so as to reach a solution.

What you said above is 100% of what you want and if you add the economic support for the first years that goes up to 105% :lol:


I have not given you what i am willing to lose I gave you 60% of what I cannot go without, now can you please explain how you are going to address the above key issues.
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Re: What exactly did the GCs not like about the AP?

Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:44 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Pyrpolizer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Security

Effective say at all levels(No loop holes)

25% Land

North State

Economic support in the first years


Actually my question was to name me all the things that you WANT and tell me which are the 40% of them that you are willing to lose so as to reach a solution.

What you said above is 100% of what you want and if you add the economic support for the first years that goes up to 105% :lol:


I have not given you what i am willing to lose I gave you 60% of what I cannot go without, now can you please explain how you are going to address the above key issues.


May i remind you that is YOU who said you cannot have 100% of what you want.
So either be specific or forget it.
And erm.. no, i am not going to explain you how i will satisfy you, it's upto you to explain in detail how you will get satisfied.
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