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Well yes, which is why stressed it was a biggish IF above, but from the EU's perspective... it has the agreement in the Ankara Protocol, and it's an unconditional one, so much depends on how accommodating and how much more patient the EU will be, but on the back of Erdotnuc also delivering on constitutional reform towards EU norms (which to be fair to the man, he is keen on), in practise the EU may throw in a few sweeteners to get the Protocol moving, perhaps in the way of the re-opening of slightly more than 8 chapters sort, which CY will have to go along with... but who can really second guess these things?

Even so, I read one Turkish commentator who said that even if Turkey decides to open its ports and airspace to ROC ships and planes, the ROC is perfectly entitled to then ask for additional preconditions for the unblocking of chapters including demanding Ankara stop using the illegal Ercan Airport and the Port of Famagusta. The ROC may also request the opening of an embassy in Ankara. Plenty more ways to keep up the pressure on Turkey's accession it seems ...

I don't think that would go down very well with the imperialist or increase our international support, which we don't have a lot of anyway.

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Well yes, which is why stressed it was a biggish IF above, but from the EU's perspective... it has the agreement in the Ankara Protocol, and it's an unconditional one, so much depends on how accommodating and how much more patient the EU will be, but on the back of Erdotnuc also delivering on constitutional reform towards EU norms (which to be fair to the man, he is keen on), in practise the EU may throw in a few sweeteners to get the Protocol moving, perhaps in the way of the re-opening of slightly more than 8 chapters sort, which CY will have to go along with... but who can really second guess these things?

Even so, I read one Turkish commentator who said that even if Turkey decides to open its ports and airspace to ROC ships and planes, the ROC is perfectly entitled to then ask for additional preconditions for the unblocking of chapters including demanding Ankara stop using the illegal Ercan Airport and the Port of Famagusta. The ROC may also request the opening of an embassy in Ankara. Plenty more ways to keep up the pressure on Turkey's accession it seems ...

I don't think that would go down very well with the imperialist or increase our international support, which we don't have a lot of anyway.

You mean, France, Germany, Austria, Russia, China and Greece don't count as international support? Is the ROC supposed to allow Turkey's EU accession to proceed unhindered? Besides, without a solution there is no chance of Turkey joining the EU anyhow, regardless of whether Turkey opens its ports and extends its Customs Union to the ROC.

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Well yes, which is why stressed it was a biggish IF above, but from the EU's perspective... it has the agreement in the Ankara Protocol, and it's an unconditional one, so much depends on how accommodating and how much more patient the EU will be, but on the back of Erdotnuc also delivering on constitutional reform towards EU norms (which to be fair to the man, he is keen on), in practise the EU may throw in a few sweeteners to get the Protocol moving, perhaps in the way of the re-opening of slightly more than 8 chapters sort, which CY will have to go along with... but who can really second guess these things?

Even so, I read one Turkish commentator who said that even if Turkey decides to open its ports and airspace to ROC ships and planes, the ROC is perfectly entitled to then ask for additional preconditions for the unblocking of chapters including demanding Ankara stop using the illegal Ercan Airport and the Port of Famagusta. The ROC may also request the opening of an embassy in Ankara. Plenty more ways to keep up the pressure on Turkey's accession it seems ...

I don't think that would go down very well with the imperialist or increase our international support, which we don't have a lot of anyway.

You mean, France, Germany, Austria, Russia, China and Greece don't count as international support? Is the ROC supposed to allow Turkey's EU accession to proceed unhindered? Besides, without a solution there is no chance of Turkey joining the EU anyhow, regardless of whether Turkey opens its ports and extends its Customs Union to the ROC.

Do those countries support us? Even Greece only gives lip-service to supporting us.