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[ZoC]

You need to learn that we are equal partners of this island and that your numerical advantage does not give you the right push us to one side and rule dominate and turn the whole of this island into a GC state with us TCs as just another minority.

i'm sure there are many tcs equal to me, but u need to learn ur not one of them. u'd be pushed aside all right, by me and other cypriots, for sure... but it would be no more than u deserve.

[Viewpoint]

Pyro you need to have another talk with Bir, after encountering the GCs and getting to know them a lot better than when he was pro unification (just like I was) he has now changed his opinion 100% and understand exactly my viewpoint and why I place up defense and do not trust GCs one iota.

[Kikapu]

Kikapu and his whole family have been kept captive by the Kypreos. He knows them first hand, inside out. Deniz, Birkibrisli and many others have had the same first hand knowledge. It seems to me that for these people the worst side of the Kypreos is better compared to the best side of the mainland Turks. And they know first hand that both the Kypreos and the Kibrislis are the same thing.
So unlike you who made up your opinion from hearsay stories from your mother while living in England and builded a whole world of phobias inside you, they have first hand experience and they know better.
That's my FIRM opinion.

So it's not a matter of supporting the Kypreos as far is they-and particularly Kikapu is concerned. It's a matter of supporting their own country for the sake of all Cypriots.

I've just seen this post, Pyro. It is those damn Avatars being on the right, is the reason why I missed it. Hopefully Admin will put them on the left next week.

Thank you for reminding everyone of my tragic childhood days, Pyro. I'm a believer that Time Does Not Stand Still and that people need to move on with the times, or else they stay stuck in the past.

As for Bir, he is a great Cypriot, a Turkish Cypriot who has also had tragic childhood along with Deniz, Halil, Issy, MR-from-NG and many more. The past cannot be changed, but we can sure do something about the future. I believe Bir's predicaments which came about fairly recently is an unfortunate one, one that was NOT of his own making. I'm not at all surprise with his recent attitude on the forum, which I support him 100%. Enough said.

In multicultural societies problems can occur naturally on their own. In Cyprus these problems between the ethnic groups were manufactured and were not natural, are the reasons why I believe Cypriots can make it together as long as outsiders do not manufacture problems for the Cypriots. I see Turkey as an invading occupying force in my country of Cyprus and all those who would like to divide the island as enemies of ALL Cypriots. Quite simple really.

[Kikapu]

Pyro you need to have another talk with Bir, after encountering the GCs and getting to know them a lot better than when he was pro unification (just like I was) he has now changed his opinion 100% and understand exactly my viewpoint and why I place up defense and do not trust GCs one iota.

I believe you ONLY have a one dimensional view of Bir's predicaments I'm afraid, which may well be what you are capable of really, just one dimensional understanding.

[Viewpoint]

Pyro you need to have another talk with Bir, after encountering the GCs and getting to know them a lot better than when he was pro unification (just like I was) he has now changed his opinion 100% and understand exactly my viewpoint and why I place up defense and do not trust GCs one iota.

I believe you ONLY have a one dimensional view of Bir's predicaments I'm afraid, which may well be what you are capable of really, just one dimensional understanding.

If only Bir was here to put you right.

[zan]

Hi all!!!! Nice to see you are all at it still and confusion reins amongst our "Cypriot" friends LOL!!

Stop separating the past from the future guys and you might not get so confused? BIr was living in the past but chose to forget and i admire him for that. The fact of the matter is that reality and the present has caught up with him and he has realised that his forgiveness has no effect on the immovable treacherous intentions of those who hold real power in GC land.

[Hermes]

Hi all!!!! Nice to see you are all at it still and confusion reins amongst our "Cypriot" friends LOL!!

Stop separating the past from the future guys and you might not get so confused? BIr was living in the past but chose to forget and i admire him for that. The fact of the matter is that reality and the present has caught up with him and he has realised that his forgiveness has no effect on the immovable treacherous intentions of those who hold real power in GC land.

Give it a break. BirkTurk hadn't really "changed" or "forgiven" anyone. He continued to blame the victims of the Turkish invasion as having been culpable in their own ethnic cleansing. A variation on the Turkish argument that the Armenians were to blame for the Ottomans attempt to wipe them out.

BirkTurk insisted that G/Cs were largely to blame for the monstrous crime of aggression directed at them. When G/Cs on this forum refused this disreputable attempt to turn them into the cause of the Turkish invasion and occupation, he then claimed that G/Cs haven't really changed at all - whereupon he reverted to type as defender of Turkish interference in Cyprus being an inevitable and justified consequence of Greek Cypriot's political aspirations. In other words, he parroted the same Turkish propaganda and nonsense on Cyprus we have had to endure since the 1950s. The truth is that it is Birkturk and his like who haven't changed, whereas the overwhelming majority of G/Cs have moved on immeasurably.

Turkish attempts to blame the G/C victims of ethnic cleansing for their fate at the hands of the Turkish colonialists is particularly vile. I am amazed that many T/Cs still peddle this line. But then again, I'm not.

[zan]

This thread holds little surprise for niether of us it seems.


Now perhaps you can point out the "immeaserable" changes GCs like you have gone through? Please make it simple for me, like;

You want the whole of Cyprus as opposed to (Please fill in present day changes).............................lol

[Hermes]

This thread holds little surprise for niether of us it seems.


Now perhaps you can point out the "immeaserable" changes GCs like you have gone through? Please make it simple for me, like;

You want the whole of Cyprus as opposed to (Please fill in present day changes).............................lol

I'll keep it simple. The ROC's claims to the sovereignty of the whole island is for all citizens of Cyprus and recognised by the UN and international law. It's really time you came to terms with it.

It seems some T/Cs are still peddling the same nonsense from the 1950s and 60s which got their community into its current predicament. They have learned nothing from the past or indeed the present and are hellbent on bizarrely blaming G/Cs for the occupation while their community hurtles headlong into oblivion under the Turkish yoke. Good luck with that!

[Pyrpolizer]

Pyro you need to have another talk with Bir, after encountering the GCs and getting to know them a lot better than when he was pro unification (just like I was) he has now changed his opinion 100% and understand exactly my viewpoint and why I place up defense and do not trust GCs one iota.

Nonsense. I know Bir much more that you can ever imagine, and I GUARANTEE YOU- much more than you