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[bill cobbett]

This is a link to the 1992 United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Persons Belonging to National or Ethnic, Religious and Linguistic Minorities...

http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Publicat ... tionen.pdf

Unlike the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, implementation is left at the national level, with national governments implementing its terms within national laws. Although there are no equivalent bodies such as the ECHR for appeals, the UN has a number of bodies which oversee and issue reports on its implementation.

Here is part of Article 2...

1. Persons belonging to national or ethnic, religious and linguistic minorities (hereinafter referred to as persons belonging to minorities) have the right to enjoy their own culture, to profess and practise their own religion, and to use their own language, in private and in public, freely and without interference or any form of discrimination.
2. Persons belonging to minorities have the right to participate effectively in cultural, religious, social, economic and public life.
3. Persons belonging to minorities have the right to participate effectively in decisions on the national and, where appropriate, regional level concerning the minority to which they belong or the regions in which they live, in a manner not incompatible with national legislation.
4. Persons belonging to minorities have the right to establish and maintain their own associations.

Again, as with the ECHR, these terms need to be incorporated into any future BBF settlement, ... and as rights are a two way street, incorporated on both sides of the boundary between any future zones.

[Sotos]

Bill, you missed a few rights ...

5. Persons belonging to minorities have the right to veto anything decided by the majority.
6. Persons belonging to minorities have the right to ethnically cleanse the majority, steal their land and create a "state" of their own.
7. Persons belonging to minorities have the right to collaborate with invaders and violate the human rights of the majority.

... only in Cyprus.

[B25]

No Sotos, it's only the Turks and Bananiotoglu that demand items 5-7.

[insan]

Bill, you missed a few rights ...

5. Persons belonging to minorities have the right to veto anything decided by the majority.
6. Persons belonging to minorities have the right to ethnically cleanse the majority, steal their land and create a "state" of their own.
7. Persons belonging to minorities have the right to collaborate with invaders and violate the human rights of the majority.

... only in Cyprus.

5. Persons belonging to minorities have the right to veto anything decided by the majority. Anything? Wasn't it only for vital issues?
6. Persons belonging to minorities have the right to ethnically cleanse the majority, steal their land and create a "state" of their own. Like your one of the currently most loved friend Israel?
7. Persons belonging to minorities have the right to collaborate with invaders and violate the human rights of the majority.Like u and Greece collaborateing with invader Israel?

[EPSILON]

Turks understanding of minority rights"

AA.A minority can control the air space / sea territory of the state where the Turkish minority is.
BB.Turkish minority must pay no taxes but is still beneficiary of same benefits as of all other citizens, who are paying taxes
CC.A Turkish minority must be always considered as a special race ,where UN or other Human rights are not valid and the majority must be onsidered as a "war looser" and a "surrenter society"/

DD.In general all rules applied by Nazis in occupied countries during WWII -in favor of Germans must apply -in favor of Turks minority.

EE. Majority must sign a declaration that its population is icluding only " MALAKES"

Rgds

[denizaksulu]

This is a link to the 1992 United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Persons Belonging to National or Ethnic, Religious and Linguistic Minorities...

http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Publicat ... tionen.pdf

Unlike the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, implementation is left at the national level, with national governments implementing its terms within national laws. Although there are no equivalent bodies such as the ECHR for appeals, the UN has a number of bodies which oversee and issue reports on its implementation.

Here is part of Article 2...

1. Persons belonging to national or ethnic, religious and linguistic minorities (hereinafter referred to as persons belonging to minorities) have the right to enjoy their own culture, to profess and practise their own religion, and to use their own language, in private and in public, freely and without interference or any form of discrimination.
2. Persons belonging to minorities have the right to participate effectively in cultural, religious, social, economic and public life.
3. Persons belonging to minorities have the right to participate effectively in decisions on the national and, where appropriate, regional level concerning the minority to which they belong or the regions in which they live, in a manner not incompatible with national legislation.
4. Persons belonging to minorities have the right to establish and maintain their own associations.

Again, as with the ECHR, these terms need to be incorporated into any future BBF settlement, ... and as rights are a two
way street, incorporated on both sides of the boundary between any future zones.

This charter seems to be all encompassing. Can anyone tell me whether anything in 'The Constitution of the Republic of Cyprus' will 'over-ride this UN Charter'?

[bill cobbett]

This is a link to the 1992 United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Persons Belonging to National or Ethnic, Religious and Linguistic Minorities...

http://www.ohchr.org/Documents/Publicat ... tionen.pdf

Unlike the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, implementation is left at the national level, with national governments implementing its terms within national laws. Although there are no equivalent bodies such as the ECHR for appeals, the UN has a number of bodies which oversee and issue reports on its implementation.

Here is part of Article 2...

1. Persons belonging to national or ethnic, religious and linguistic minorities (hereinafter referred to as persons belonging to minorities) have the right to enjoy their own culture, to profess and practise their own religion, and to use their own language, in private and in public, freely and without interference or any form of discrimination.
2. Persons belonging to minorities have the right to participate effectively in cultural, religious, social, economic and public life.
3. Persons belonging to minorities have the right to participate effectively in decisions on the national and, where appropriate, regional level concerning the minority to which they belong or the regions in which they live, in a manner not incompatible with national legislation.
4. Persons belonging to minorities have the right to establish and maintain their own associations.

Again, as with the ECHR, these terms need to be incorporated into any future BBF settlement, ... and as rights are a two
way street, incorporated on both sides of the boundary between any future zones.

This charter seems to be all encompassing. Can anyone tell me whether anything in 'The Constitution of the Republic of Cyprus' will 'over-ride this UN Charter'?

Think you'll find the answer to your question, with a great deal more, discussed here in a recent joint report from the International Minority Rights Group. Page 13 gives a part of the answer.

Click Download The Full Report over on the right...

http://www.minorityrights.org/10663/rep ... flict.html

[Sotos]

Bill, you missed a few rights ...

5. Persons belonging to minorities have the right to veto anything decided by the majority.
6. Persons belonging to minorities have the right to ethnically cleanse the majority, steal their land and create a "state" of their own.
7. Persons belonging to minorities have the right to collaborate with invaders and violate the human rights of the majority.

... only in Cyprus.

5. Persons belonging to minorities have the right to veto anything decided by the majority. Anything? Wasn't it only for vital issues?
6. Persons belonging to minorities have the right to ethnically cleanse the majority, steal their land and create a "state" of their own. Like your one of the currently most loved friend Israel?
7. Persons belonging to minorities have the right to collaborate with invaders and violate the human rights of the majority.Like u and Greece collaborateing with invader Israel?

Turkey has collaborated much more with Israel! And our collaboration with Israel has nothing to do with violating the human rights of anybody. Try again!

[Expatkiwi]

Bill, you should have learned well before now that such posts will get twisted and torn to pieces by the usual critics here on this forum.

[bill cobbett]

Bill, you should have learned well before now that such posts will get twisted and torn to pieces by the usual critics here on this forum.

The UN Minorities Dec doc remains the definitive doc on minority rights, but it's best if people speak frankly as to how they feel about these things in our usual CF way.

Anyway, a reminder to all pleeeeeeese, that these rights, the general, universal human rights of the ECHR, together with these minority rights, need to be incorporated in to a settlement, indeed they should form the bedrock of a reunification in a Rights Based BBF... and as they are rights, we should look upon them as non-negotiable, and to recap, the more CY salient ones are...

Right to respect for Property (...ahem... as per '74 kochans)
Right to respect for Home (... but that does not mean a Free Home)
Freedom of Movement (as per Article 13 of the UDHR, and others)
Minority Rights (in both future zones as well as at federal level, and not confined to two larger "communities" by the way)