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PR EROGLU: AN ARDOUS BARGAINING PROCESS LIES AHEAD

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Re: PR EROGLU: AN ARDOUS BARGAINING PROCESS LIES AHEAD

Postby Bananiot » Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:42 pm

And, humanist, I do not want to hear another word about Australia. It is enough having paphitis telling us how everything is run properly in Australia, we can do without you resorting to this argument too.
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Re: PR EROGLU: AN ARDOUS BARGAINING PROCESS LIES AHEAD

Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jun 06, 2011 9:43 pm

quattro wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Rather them than you.

this is a talk between humans mutants have no place here.



So when are you leaving?
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Re: PR EROGLU: AN ARDOUS BARGAINING PROCESS LIES AHEAD

Postby quattro » Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:17 pm

Bananiot wrote:I am all for an angelic world too, don't get me wrong. There is this small thing though: Politics is the art of the feasible and in an ideal world there would be no politics and thus no need to resort to the feasible. Quattro, I respect what you say but in the meantime the north is turkified at frighteningly fast rates. Thus, talking abstract will not save Cyprus and the Cypriots.

And so this is our problem and not the tcs that allowed them to do so where were they for 37 years seeing what was turkey about and after 37 years is our fault or they were so abstract by the shine on the new state. I am not talking abstract Bananiot I am too focus more than i was ever before . I am not a politician or so good in english language to work out a plan i speak from my heard and only that.
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Re: PR EROGLU: AN ARDOUS BARGAINING PROCESS LIES AHEAD

Postby Bananiot » Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:25 pm

Your English is quite good, better than some scholars I know. Still, though, wishful thinking will not save us and as I said before, the north will be unrecognisable pretty soon, while we wait for some sort of a miracle that will never happen.
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Re: PR EROGLU: AN ARDOUS BARGAINING PROCESS LIES AHEAD

Postby humanist » Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:26 pm

halil
so u are offering us minority rights..... U wanting from us also give up our rights what we had at 1960 consitution..... do not forget we were equal partners at 60's..... our struggle started not to loose what 60's consitution gave us.....we did have a voting power have a read old consitution again.... Federal solution will not be worse than 60's consitution....Consitution also says about Armenians, Maronites and latins and in what group they will be counted. Than not compare TC's with them.


halil with all do respect we are on two different paths of human and spiritual evolution. You will never get me becuas eyou don't allow yourself to think broadly.

I can break down your sentences but I don't have the time or the willingness
. The fact that you you separate other minority groups shows that you little mind cannot comprehend some basic human right principles including democracy nd equality.

You are equal to any other Cypriot if you allow yourself to see it.

So take you little laughing emoticons and place them where they belong.
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Re: PR EROGLU: AN ARDOUS BARGAINING PROCESS LIES AHEAD

Postby Bananiot » Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:28 pm

Please refrain from using village language humanist, so far you have been a real gentleman and you shouldn't spoil it now.
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Re: PR EROGLU: AN ARDOUS BARGAINING PROCESS LIES AHEAD

Postby humanist » Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:34 pm

bananiot
And, humanist, I do not want to hear another word about Australia. It is enough having paphitis telling us how everything is run properly in Australia, we can do without you resorting to this argument too.


bananiot Australia is far from being a properly functioning State. We have just as many issues as any other Country, we have discrimination, we have sexism, we have politics and we have power struggles, we have economic issues. I chose Australia because I live here.

You pick any democracy in your region and you will see that no minority group in any other nation has the demands that TC's do.

Ps halils coments are narrow minded village thoughts. I was by no means saying that TC's deserve anything less than being equal to any other Cypriot. There should be a solution based on equaltiy of all Cypriots with rights to vote and be elected. That is all I am saying.
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Re: PR EROGLU: AN ARDOUS BARGAINING PROCESS LIES AHEAD

Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:41 pm

It seems to me some people got the concept of Cypriotism totally wrong.
I wouldn't blame anyone for getting this wrong idea, when in fact there are these NEO-Kypreos/NEO-Kibrisli groups who promote the exact wrong meaning of Cypriotism.


Cypriotism does not mean we are the same.
CYPRIOTISM means our INTERESTS are within Cyprus, and contradict with the interest of both the Greek and the Turkish state.
Cypriotism means the Kibrislis and the Kypreos have the same common INTERESTS.
Naming yourself as Greek or Turkish Cypriot causes confusion not only to foreigners (who wonder what the hell you are a Greek, a Turk,a Cypriot?) but to your brains too.

I think the matter of minority/majority and equality is totally meaningless as long as we are talking for a Federal solution.
The Kibrislis and our friend halil will be very happy with it because as they were told they will be equal partners.However halil will still be working at Bayrak, and perhaps the only change in his life will be that he will be getting more money but at the same time pay most of it for taxes to pay all those Federal Government employees.

Our friend quatro might not be happy with this no simple minority status of the Kibrislis, but on the other hand he would probably giggle secretly as soon as the Kibrislis start complaining that they are too few to pay so many Government employees just to have their own state as equal partners.
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Re: PR EROGLU: AN ARDOUS BARGAINING PROCESS LIES AHEAD

Postby quattro » Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:46 pm

humanist wrote:bananiot
And, humanist, I do not want to hear another word about Australia. It is enough having paphitis telling us how everything is run properly in Australia, we can do without you resorting to this argument too.


bananiot Australia is far from being a properly functioning State. We have just as many issues as any other Country, we have discrimination, we have sexism, we have politics and we have power struggles, we have economic issues. I chose Australia because I live here.

You pick any democracy in your region and you will see that no minority group in any other nation has the demands that TC's do.

Ps halils coments are narrow minded village thoughts. I was by no means saying that TC's deserve anything less than being equal to any other Cypriot. There should be a solution based on equaltiy of all Cypriots with rights to vote and be elected. That is all I am saying.


Just what I was saying all day long ....can anyone find anything about minority humans right .? or minority international law? is there any special section for minoritys ?
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Re: PR EROGLU: AN ARDOUS BARGAINING PROCESS LIES AHEAD

Postby Bananiot » Mon Jun 06, 2011 10:52 pm

Well, laws are made to protect the weak, the few, the minorities ... but have we excelled in this field to the point we can say "come, don't be afraid, we don't bite".
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