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[Sotos]

You are WRONG!!! I have already explained twice, and i don't intend to do so again!!! If these manufacturers can and do supply ALL the UK appliances with 13A plug tops then why do you think it's going to be more expensive to do so here??? If you don't understand simple terminology you shouldn't be here writing about what you don't understand...

You explained nothing. If the cost to import devices with 3 pin plugs was the same as to import them with 2 pin plugs then WHY don't they import the devices with 3 pin plugs? Do you have a logical explanation?

NO!! ....that is the very last thing you would want. You have the safest standard and you want to toss it, ...Amazing!!! NO they cannot co-exist, CU arrangements are totally different. I think i explained that to you already too!! If you did change to the German system, your CU will need to be twice the size, at least, ...Still keen to change?? Geezus this is bloody hard work!!!

It is a NEW HOUSE which is not build yet. So I would need to change nothing.

Think yourself bloody lucky that you have UK electrical standards in Cyprus.... If you don't want to use those adaptors, and your not prepared to partition those responsible to ensure your appliances are supplied with the correct plug top, ...then fit those appliances that you buy, with the correct plug top YOURSELF, ....Simples!!!
As for the rest of your statements, it's pretty obvious you haven't a clue about whats electrically safe and what isn't, and what's more you don't want to listen to someone that does. Which makes you a danger to yourself

So I haven't got a clue about whats electrically safe and I am danger to myself and still you suggest that I should change the plugs myself because this is more safe than doing what they do in most of Europe?

[yialousa1971]

Sotos,

we have a standard here, it is much better that the euro standard, the goods are NOT cheaper because they come in 2 pin plugs, it's because the importers get them a ta price and rip us off. No electrical appliance in Cyprus is cheap. Your problem, speaking as a cypriot, is you just don't want to accept anything British. Larnacaman is totally correct. I hate those MFs that provide goods with 2 pin plugs and then I have to go out and get a plug. Come on, lets be sensible, there is no price for safety, especially electrical safety.

LMan, i'm with you. Unfortunately, you will not get through to Sotos as he hates anything to do with the British.

Putting a 3 pin plug on an appliance that has a 2 pin plug on it (a appliance that is not earthed) will not make it any bit safer!

[kurupetos]

I hope not: we have recently lost too many CFer's as it is!

Don't worry, they are in the closet. They may come out any time now.

[yialousa1971]

What I argue is that there should be 2 standards. The "old" and the "new" and both can coexist together for many years until most homes switch to the "new" standard. For this I assume that the electricity that comes in the house is the same for both and that all differences are in the wiring of the house itself. Is this assumption wrong?


I am building a new house so I can build it as I want it. But unfortunately now I am forced to build my house with the UK standards even though most of the devices I will be using will have the 2 pin plugs because that is what is sold here. The result is something less safe, less convenient, and less elegant (adapters etc)!!

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[larnacaman]

Sotos,

we have a standard here, it is much better that the euro standard, the goods are NOT cheaper because they come in 2 pin plugs, it's because the importers get them a ta price and rip us off. No electrical appliance in Cyprus is cheap. Your problem, speaking as a cypriot, is you just don't want to accept anything British. Larnacaman is totally correct. I hate those MFs that provide goods with 2 pin plugs and then I have to go out and get a plug. Come on, lets be sensible, there is no price for safety, especially electrical safety.

LMan, i'm with you. Unfortunately, you will not get through to Sotos as he hates anything to do with the British.

Putting a 3 pin plug on an appliance that has a 2 pin plug on it (a appliance that is not earthed) will not make it any bit safer!

Yialousa1971,

That's where your Wrong, if you had read my posts above you would have seen that the 2 pin type plug tops are NOT polarised, which means you could well be supplying the neutral pin with the live conductor at the wall outlet. That being the case, any switch on the appliance would then be switching the neutral, leaving the live conductor permanently connected to the internals of the appliance even in the off position.

Even by using the above type 13A plug top adaptor that allows the 2 pin plug to be inserted inside, is not the answer, as it's a 50/50 chance you connect it the wrong way round!!!

Sotos,

I was giving you the benifit of the doubt, by assuming it was not beyond you to wire a plug top correctly. If i was wrong, my apologies to you!!!! If your really that stupid to want your house wired to a European standard then you will need to find a German, French, or other electrician, as your local Cypriot electricians wouldn't have a clue to the requirements your installation would need to meet. Not to sure how you would stand either, regarding the legality of the installation, or how you would stand from an insurance viewpoint. But anyway ...You Know Best ...Right???

[Sotos]

Sotos,

I was giving you the benifit of the doubt, by assuming it was not beyond you to wire a plug top correctly. If i was wrong, my apologies to you!!!! If your really that stupid to want your house wired to a European standard then you will need to find a German, French, or other electrician, as your local Cypriot electricians wouldn't have a clue to the requirements your installation would need to meet. Not to sure how you would stand either, regarding the legality of the installation, or how you would stand from an insurance viewpoint. But anyway ...You Know Best ...Right???

You are the stupid one as you apparently can't even comprehend what I am saying. My point, which you fail to understand, is that people should not have to buy a device that can't be plugged directly to the walls of their own homes. Since in Cyprus almost all devices imported have the 2 pin plugs then it makes perfect sense for Cyprus to change its standards to the ones that most imported devices use, which is also what most EU countries use. I would suggest to you to stick to changing plugs and other menial tasks and stop struggling to understand what is apparently too much for your tiny brain.

[larnacaman]

Sotos,

I was giving you the benifit of the doubt, by assuming it was not beyond you to wire a plug top correctly. If i was wrong, my apologies to you!!!! If your really that stupid to want your house wired to a European standard then you will need to find a German, French, or other electrician, as your local Cypriot electricians wouldn't have a clue to the requirements your installation would need to meet. Not to sure how you would stand either, regarding the legality of the installation, or how you would stand from an insurance viewpoint. But anyway ...You Know Best ...Right???

You are the stupid one as you apparently can't even comprehend what I am saying. My point, which you fail to understand, is that people should not have to buy a device that can't be plugged directly to the walls of their own homes. Since in Cyprus almost all devices imported have the 2 pin plugs then it makes perfect sense for Cyprus to change its standards to the ones that most imported devices use, which is also what most EU countries use. I would suggest to you to stick to changing plugs and other menial tasks and stop struggling to understand what is apparently too much for your tiny brain.

You sir, are obviously a complete idiot and don't even know it!!! I understand everything you have stated in this thread, i'm afraid it's YOU and only You, that can't comprehend what has been explained to you by myself and others.

Thankfully, the rest of the Cypriots here DO understand!!! The reason you can't find correct plug tops on appliances in Cyprus, is that the government dept's responsible, don't give a rat's arse about yours or anyone else's saftey!! You have an EU Statutory regulation that covers in totality your original opening post complaint, but you and the rest of your countrymen would rather moan and groan amongst yourselves and on a forum, than force the government to implement and enforce this very sensible and saftey related standing regulation!!!

You as a complete plonker, want to change the countries high electrical standards, because the retail outlets are generally selling appliances that were NOT intended for sale in Cyprus with plug tops fitted, that can't be safely used even with adaptors!!! And that are ''Knowingly'' breaking the law!!! And you call me stupid!!! Every time you have posted on this thread, you've opened your mouth and both feet have gone straight in it.

[Sotos]

Thankfully, the rest of the Cypriots here DO understand!

you and the rest of your countrymen would rather moan and groan amongst yourselves and on a forum

So it is "just me", or is it a "all my countrymen"? You can't even make a basic point without contradicting yourself It is financially beneficial for the importers to import devices with 2 pin plugs (otherwise they wouldn't), me and my countrymen would prefer if we had the same standard as most of Europe, but according to you the government should ignore its people and force on us a system that is a remnant of colonial rule I think that Cyprus should start to gradually change to European standards... common standards across Europe (and even world eventually) is the way forward.

[CBBB]

Thankfully, the rest of the Cypriots here DO understand!

you and the rest of your countrymen would rather moan and groan amongst yourselves and on a forum

So it is "just me", or is it a "all my countrymen"? You can't even make a basic point without contradicting yourself It is financially beneficial for the importers to import devices with 2 pin plugs (otherwise they wouldn't), me and my countrymen would prefer if we had the same standard as most of Europe, but according to you the government should ignore its people and force on us a system that is a remnant of colonial rule I think that Cyprus should start to gradually change to European standards... common standards across Europe (and even world eventually) is the way forward.

TODAY CYPRUS, TOMORROW ZE VORLD!!!!!!

[Sotos]

Thankfully, the rest of the Cypriots here DO understand!

you and the rest of your countrymen would rather moan and groan amongst yourselves and on a forum

So it is "just me", or is it a "all my countrymen"? You can't even make a basic point without contradicting yourself It is financially beneficial for the importers to import devices with 2 pin plugs (otherwise they wouldn't), me and my countrymen would prefer if we had the same standard as most of Europe, but according to you the government should ignore its people and force on us a system that is a remnant of colonial rule I think that Cyprus should start to gradually change to European standards... common standards across Europe (and even world eventually) is the way forward.

TODAY CYPRUS, TOMORROW ZE VORLD!!!!!!

You British can't admit defeat to the French and Germans about anything