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'No pull-out' from Bases

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Paphitis » Mon May 30, 2011 4:24 pm

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Kikapu wrote:At the present time, it is the best that the British does not pull out of any of the bases until a settlement is reached with defined state lines as well as certain distance of the north's state lines to be from the Dhekelia Base boundaries, or else, if they did pull out now, it will become a very hot spot in Turkey wanting to take it over in order to get to the southern shores of Cyprus and divide the free areas of the RoC's east and west at the same time, to which they will be able to demand greater compromise from the GCs in a future settlement. Halil is already licking his chops over that prospect, and I don't think it was ONLY for the Cheeseburger.!


If the Brits were to pull out, I doubt they will be leaving anything to chance. They will probably declare a handover date, where a ceremony will even be held where their colors will be taken down and the RoC Flag will be raised, in the spirit of Military tradition and all the fanfare that goes with it similar to what we saw in Hong Kong. They will probably even allow entry to the CNG so that they can take their posts upon handover. The Brits might even leave some troops behind for a while, as a deterrent to Turkey and to ensure a smooth transition without any shenanigans!

The British commander will then hand over control to the RoC.

They will never allow Dhekelia to become a major hot spot, or accept any Turkish antics, because this will result in much embarrassment as Britain will once again leave another very sorry legacy behind.


The Brits made some noises about handing back some of the SBA land when the second evil A Plan was under debate: that obviously became redundant with the "oxi' vote but I suspect that GB would be quite happy to reduce its (Financial) committment to the SBA.

If I recall at that time the Turks made noises about getting some SBA land for the illegal psuedo state if the Brits ever pulled out: I just hope that any hand over of unused land(which I throughly support as the whole question of the SBA in their current formatis anomolous) is done so the area comes under ROC control and the Turkish Army and its puppets are kept out.


I believe Britain has no choice but to hand over any unused land to the RoC and not to an occupation regime which is officially condemned by Britain itself and the international community at large.

As I said, they will probably retain possession until there is a solution, but if that is not forthcoming, then they will pull out if that is an economically sensible thing for them to do, and officially hand over control to the RoC and ensure that the transition is smooth and that the RoC has ample opportunity to get the CNG and its Police into the area to ensure law and order.

I can't imagine them handing over any land to the occupation regime.

That's my take on it anyway!
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Postby Kikapu » Mon May 30, 2011 5:01 pm

denizaksulu wrote:'I see trouble ahead'.

UK dare not give Dekhelia to the Turks or anyone for that matter. That will only make Turkeys mouth water for access to the southern oil fields etc. They best stay put or there will be 'Megalo Problema'.

I dont have to spell it out.


Exactly!

They would then become 50-50 partners with the RoC over those fields as well as greater areas of the Med, south of Cyprus. Good luck in getting rid of Turkey from Cyprus thereafter. They will then have something to offer the EU for membership. Oil and Gas!
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Postby Paphitis » Mon May 30, 2011 5:18 pm

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denizaksulu wrote:'I see trouble ahead'.

UK dare not give Dekhelia to the Turks or anyone for that matter. That will only make Turkeys mouth water for access to the southern oil fields etc. They best stay put or there will be 'Megalo Problema'.

I dont have to spell it out.


Exactly!

They would then become 50-50 partners with the RoC over those fields as well as greater areas of the Med, south of Cyprus. Good luck in getting rid of Turkey from Cyprus thereafter. They will then have something to offer the EU for membership. Oil and Gas!


Do you honestly think Britain will let something like that happen?

I have my doubts!
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Postby bill cobbett » Mon May 30, 2011 5:32 pm

From two years ago, the BBC reported that the offer to make over about half the land areas of the SBAs was repeated... and again is CONDITIONAL to a comprehensive settlement...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8353712.stm
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Postby Kikapu » Mon May 30, 2011 5:39 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:'I see trouble ahead'.

UK dare not give Dekhelia to the Turks or anyone for that matter. That will only make Turkeys mouth water for access to the southern oil fields etc. They best stay put or there will be 'Megalo Problema'.

I dont have to spell it out.


Exactly!

They would then become 50-50 partners with the RoC over those fields as well as greater areas of the Med, south of Cyprus. Good luck in getting rid of Turkey from Cyprus thereafter. They will then have something to offer the EU for membership. Oil and Gas!


Do you honestly think Britain will let something like that happen?

I have my doubts!


I don't know my friend, but that's what Britain tried to do for herself in the 2004 Annan Plan, by trying to gain access to the waters of southern coast of Cyprus. No doubt because of Oil and Gas. Blair was a bigger crook than Annan and Bush were. It may be the last bad deed Britain may want to do to the RoC before leaving the island, is to help Turkey gain access to the southern coast of Cyprus, in order to prevent the RoC from blocking Turkey's EU membership if Turkey had such an access to the southern coast of Cyprus and to the Oil and Gas fields..
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Postby Paphitis » Mon May 30, 2011 5:43 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:'I see trouble ahead'.

UK dare not give Dekhelia to the Turks or anyone for that matter. That will only make Turkeys mouth water for access to the southern oil fields etc. They best stay put or there will be 'Megalo Problema'.

I dont have to spell it out.


Exactly!

They would then become 50-50 partners with the RoC over those fields as well as greater areas of the Med, south of Cyprus. Good luck in getting rid of Turkey from Cyprus thereafter. They will then have something to offer the EU for membership. Oil and Gas!


Do you honestly think Britain will let something like that happen?

I have my doubts!


I don't know my friend, but that's what Britain tried to do for herself in the 2004 Annan Plan, by trying to gain access to the waters of southern coast of Cyprus. No doubt because of Oil and Gas. Blair was a bigger crook than Annan and Bush were. It may be the last bad deed Britain may want to do to the RoC before leaving the island, is to help Turkey gain access to the southern coast of Cyprus, in order to prevent the RoC from blocking Turkey's EU membership if Turkey had such an access to the southern coast of Cyprus and to the Oil and Gas fields..


Yeh, that thought did come across my mind!

It is true what you say about the Annan Plan. When it comes to Oil and Gas, you just can't trust anyone.
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Postby georgios100 » Tue May 31, 2011 3:59 pm

The SBAs are a relic of British Colonial Era, MUST go sooner or later.

The status of the SBAs and it's removal should be part of the Cyprob Talks.
Upon a solution, the bases to be geografically defined between the two communities as part of the Land issue of Cyprob.

In case the TC side withdraws from the talks, the SBAs must be surrendered to ROC, the recognized Authority of Cyprus.

Any Cypriot still insisting on keeping the bases is a traitor of Cyprus.
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