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[ZoC]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pied-Noir

By independence, the Pieds-Noirs (French colonists living in occupied Algeria) accounted for 1,400,000 people, or roughly 13 percent of the total population...

...After Algeria became independent in 1962, more than one million Pieds-Noirs of French nationality were evacuated to mainland France.

it happened in algeria after liberation from france after 132 years of occupation... it can happen in cyprus after liberation from turkey.

[Cap]

It happened in Haiti too.

You'd have to be a racist or PC incorrect realist to acknowledge the reality.
Haiti failed. Big time.

CY got rid of the British and flourished.
CY gets rid of the gypsy terrorists and...... ?

[ZoC]

It happened in Haiti too.

You'd have to be a racist or PC incorrect realist to acknowledge the reality.
Haiti failed. Big time.

CY got rid of the British and flourished.
CY gets rid of the gypsy terrorists and...... ?

u'll truly believe a country can fly...

[Cap]

It happened in Haiti too.

You'd have to be a racist or PC incorrect realist to acknowledge the reality.
Haiti failed. Big time.

CY got rid of the British and flourished.
CY gets rid of the gypsy terrorists and...... ?

u'll truly believe a country can fly...

[bill cobbett]

Historic precedence for settlers going home...?

Well tricky boys, very tricky.

Best can do at this late hour is ...

The Nuremberg Judgment of 1946 dealt with the some of the Nazi war crimes that involved forced transfers of populations as per CY in '74.

The judgment was approved by the UN Gen Assembly as Resolution 95 in 1946.

It formed the basis of the 4th Geneva Convention in 1949, which says...

“Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of protected persons from occupied territory… are prohibited, regardless of their motive. … The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies."

Pretty clear heh? ... "The Occupying Power shall not deport or transfer parts of its own civilian pop into the territory it occupies."

Want more? Well the above was strengthened in Article 85 of the First Protocol to the ECHR which says...

"In addition to the grave breaches defined in the preceding paragraphs and in the Conventions, the following shall be regarded as grave breaches of the Protocol, when committed wilfully and in violation of the Conventions or the Protocol:

(a) the transfer by the Occupying Power of parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies”

You greedy lot!!! You want even more? Hows about the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court which deems it a war crime if...

"“The transfer, directly or indirectly, by the Occupying Power of parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies, or the deportation or transfer of all or parts of the population of the occupied territory within or outside this territory.”

Then specifically on CY...

UN Resolution (Gen Assembly) 3212 1974 .. which says ...“all the refugees should return to their homes in safety”

Then UN Res (Security Council) 3395 1975 ... calling upon “the parties concerned to undertake urgent measures to facilitate the voluntary return of all refugees to their homes in safety and to settle all other aspects of the refugee problem”

... and there have been others.

Fine, very fine words eh? ... but, and it's a BIG BUT and we all know what it is, some western-leaning states feel they can act with impunity to these fine words, states like Turkey and Israel top the list, and until one of the leaders of these states is dragged before the International Criminal Court in the Hague, they will disregard these nice aims and words.

[B25]

BillC, excellent post, but I am sorry to say, it is all total BS.

All these judgements,, protocols, blah blah blahs, and what did anyone do to Turkey, Sweet FA. So, it's just jobs for the boys with no actions from anyone.

The only liberation for these gypies is going to be a forcible one sadly, as no one has the nuts to make turkey play ball. Not even the Yanks.

Oh well, we can keep dreaming.........

[bill cobbett]

BillC, excellent post, but I am sorry to say, it is all total BS.

All these judgements,, protocols, blah blah blahs, and what did anyone do to Turkey, Sweet FA. So, it's just jobs for the boys with no actions from anyone.

The only liberation for these gypies is going to be a forcible one sadly, as no one has the nuts to make turkey play ball. Not even the Yanks.

Oh well, we can keep dreaming.........

Why thank you B25, very kind, but what have posted above is very incomplete cos..

...there is an even longer list of how Article 49 of the 4th Geneva Convention has developed since 1949, how it has been reaffirmed and refined at various international conferences, how it has been incorporated into military codes in a long list of nations and ratified into national laws all over the world.

For example, in the case of GB...

"Under the UK ICC Act (2001), it is a punishable offence to commit a war crime as defined in Article 8(2)(b)(viii) of the 1998 ICC Statute"

Again in GB... The UK LOAC Manual (2004) (which is The Guide to Behaviour by the GB armed services in the field) states:

"Members of the occupying power’s own civilian population may not be transferred to occupied territory … Unlawful deportation or transfer is a grave breach of the [Fourth Geneva] Convention.
In its chapter on enforcement of the law of armed conflict, the manual notes:
Additional Protocol I extends the definition of grave breaches to include the following:
…
c. the following, when committed wilfully and in violation of the Conventions or the protocol:
(1) the transfer by the occupying power of part of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies, or the deportation or transfer of all or parts of the population of the occupied territory within or outside this territory""

... and there are loads and loads of refs to other countries (except Turkey and Israel)

More at the International Red Cross Committee at...

http://www.icrc.org/customary-ihl/eng/d ... ul_rule130

[SKI-preo]

Nasserite Egypt?

[Pyrpolizer]

All those UN resolutions Geneva convention articles would be very nice and applicable immediately if there was war and Turkey was defeated.
Trying to solve the problem through peaceful means with negotiations etc. all we can achieve is possibly an amalgamation of those with whatever human rights the settlers have.
Let;s face it under EU Aquis many settlers will be allowed to stay....

[Viewpoint]

All part of the bigger deal.....no deal and no one leaves.