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Postby B25 » Sat May 28, 2011 12:43 pm

Bananiot wrote:Cypriots idiot, not GC's and TC's! I do not expect a fascist and a racist to understand this.


How can it be TCs, you twit, you already support them, plonker.

I am talking about the people that you deny these rights to, but critisize others for.

Ma eisai telia pellos?
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Postby Bananiot » Sat May 28, 2011 1:13 pm

But, you think all tc's are the same and this makes you a fascist and a racist!
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Postby Kikapu » Sat May 28, 2011 1:58 pm

I hope Turkey has learned it's lesson from the last attempt a year ago bringing Humanitarian Aid to the Palestinians, but this time NOT bringing them out-of-date medicines, but ONLY the good stuff.! :idea:
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Postby B25 » Sat May 28, 2011 2:05 pm

Bananiot wrote:But, you think all tc's are the same and this makes you a fascist and a racist!


:lol: :lol: You're so funny, now I have to distinguish between good and bad TCs??? I thought they were all your mates.

So, go on, tell us whats a bad TC then??

You are the fascist and racist, you do the same to the GCs, but you are too blind and stupid to see that. probably because you have your head buried so far up their arses!
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Postby Piratis » Sat May 28, 2011 2:50 pm

Bananiot wrote:It's called double standards, DT. Plain and simple. This is what Piratis had to say about the Cyprus issue:

I know all about "real politik" Bananiot. Knowing what "real politik" means doesn't mean excusing immoral and criminal acts that result from it. You seem to excuse every criminal act by the AngloAmericans as if it is perfectly OK for them to walk over the human rights of people and the rights of other nations in order to achieve their own aims of world domination.


In the Palestinian-Israeli conflict he switched allegiance (like a number of other forumers - some adopted the Israeli symbol of occupation, the flag) the moment he sensed a possible Turco-Israeli conflict.

I suppose, from your post, you condone such behaviour too. You are ready to walk over the human rights of the Palestinians and the rights of Palestine, in order for Israel to consolidate its dominance in the Middle East.

This won't do DT, human rights and the right of nations to exist and flourish are vital universal values and thus, I call upon both of you to refrain from talking about morality and human rights when it comes to the Cyprus issue because you have shown that you are not sincere about such issues.

The motto "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" that you have adopted is utterly flawed and immoral and this puts serious question marks over your arguments (all based on moral principles) regarding the Cyprus issue.


I never switched alliance in the Palestinian-Israeli conflict and I will never do so unless the Palestinians switch alliance in the Cyprus - Turkey conflict and they start supporting the Turks.

Where I support the Israelis is in the Turco-Israeli conflict. Not only the Turks are our enemy, the ones who occupy our island, but even generally speaking they are far worst than the Israelis, since the crimes they committed and continue to commit against Cypriots, Kurds, Armenians, Greeks etc are far far far worst than anything the Israelis have ever done.

Are you saying that in such conflict you would support the ones who occupy our country?
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Postby DT. » Sat May 28, 2011 5:23 pm

Bananiot wrote:It's called double standards, DT. Plain and simple. This is what Piratis had to say about the Cyprus issue:

I know all about "real politik" Bananiot. Knowing what "real politik" means doesn't mean excusing immoral and criminal acts that result from it. You seem to excuse every criminal act by the AngloAmericans as if it is perfectly OK for them to walk over the human rights of people and the rights of other nations in order to achieve their own aims of world domination.


In the Palestinian-Israeli conflict he switched allegiance (like a number of other forumers - some adopted the Israeli symbol of occupation, the flag) the moment he sensed a possible Turco-Israeli conflict.

I suppose, from your post, you condone such behaviour too. You are ready to walk over the human rights of the Palestinians and the rights of Palestine, in order for Israel to consolidate its dominance in the Middle East.

This won't do DT, human rights and the right of nations to exist and flourish are vital universal values and thus, I call upon both of you to refrain from talking about morality and human rights when it comes to the Cyprus issue because you have shown that you are not sincere about such issues.

The motto "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" that you have adopted is utterly flawed and immoral and this puts serious question marks over your arguments (all based on moral principles) regarding the Cyprus issue.


Then quit having a go at the president for choosing to go to Australia rather than sit around a table in the uk agreeing against his principles about bombing Libya.

You can't go around demanding the countries interests are best served by ignoring state visits to Australia a long term friend of Cyprus and at the same time have a fit when Cyprus cosy's up to Israel after a number of mutual advantageous developments have been identified.....eg storing israeli natural gas in vassiliko and piping it to Europe...( something that would prove extremely beneficial to Cyprus economic progress.)

Pick bananiot, you want Cyprus looking after it's interests or not?
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Postby repulsewarrior » Sun May 29, 2011 3:15 am

...well said DT.

as Individuals we are neither "Turks" or "Greeks", we are Cypriots.
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Postby Paphitis » Sun May 29, 2011 4:04 am

Bananiot wrote:It's called double standards, DT. Plain and simple. This is what Piratis had to say about the Cyprus issue:

I know all about "real politik" Bananiot. Knowing what "real politik" means doesn't mean excusing immoral and criminal acts that result from it. You seem to excuse every criminal act by the AngloAmericans as if it is perfectly OK for them to walk over the human rights of people and the rights of other nations in order to achieve their own aims of world domination.


In the Palestinian-Israeli conflict he switched allegiance (like a number of other forumers - some adopted the Israeli symbol of occupation, the flag) the moment he sensed a possible Turco-Israeli conflict.

I suppose, from your post, you condone such behaviour too. You are ready to walk over the human rights of the Palestinians and the rights of Palestine, in order for Israel to consolidate its dominance in the Middle East.

This won't do DT, human rights and the right of nations to exist and flourish are vital universal values and thus, I call upon both of you to refrain from talking about morality and human rights when it comes to the Cyprus issue because you have shown that you are not sincere about such issues.

The motto "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" that you have adopted is utterly flawed and immoral and this puts serious question marks over your arguments (all based on moral principles) regarding the Cyprus issue.


You at one point adopted the Japanese Flag, a country which does not accept responsibility for WW2 war crimes against Australia and US, unlike Germany.

This places Japan in the same league as Turkey itself.

What Australian and American POWs had to endure would make your skin crawl. Today's Japs have no idea about the atrocities committed under the Emperor's name and let me just add, as gruesome as the Germans were, they had nothing on the Japs.

Double standards!
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Postby Paphitis » Sun May 29, 2011 4:16 am

DT. wrote:
Bananiot wrote:It's called double standards, DT. Plain and simple. This is what Piratis had to say about the Cyprus issue:

I know all about "real politik" Bananiot. Knowing what "real politik" means doesn't mean excusing immoral and criminal acts that result from it. You seem to excuse every criminal act by the AngloAmericans as if it is perfectly OK for them to walk over the human rights of people and the rights of other nations in order to achieve their own aims of world domination.


In the Palestinian-Israeli conflict he switched allegiance (like a number of other forumers - some adopted the Israeli symbol of occupation, the flag) the moment he sensed a possible Turco-Israeli conflict.

I suppose, from your post, you condone such behaviour too. You are ready to walk over the human rights of the Palestinians and the rights of Palestine, in order for Israel to consolidate its dominance in the Middle East.

This won't do DT, human rights and the right of nations to exist and flourish are vital universal values and thus, I call upon both of you to refrain from talking about morality and human rights when it comes to the Cyprus issue because you have shown that you are not sincere about such issues.

The motto "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" that you have adopted is utterly flawed and immoral and this puts serious question marks over your arguments (all based on moral principles) regarding the Cyprus issue.


Then quit having a go at the president for choosing to go to Australia rather than sit around a table in the uk agreeing against his principles about bombing Libya.

You can't go around demanding the countries interests are best served by ignoring state visits to Australia a long term friend of Cyprus and at the same time have a fit when Cyprus cosy's up to Israel after a number of mutual advantageous developments have been identified.....eg storing israeli natural gas in vassiliko and piping it to Europe...( something that would prove extremely beneficial to Cyprus economic progress.)

Pick bananiot, you want Cyprus looking after it's interests or not?


Australia is not a country that any sane leader will ignore. Neither is Germany or the UK. And with Israel, we now share common interests.

One benefit for Cyprus that has come out of Christofias visit is that Australia has pledged to send a Fire Service delegation to lay the ground work for future cooperation. Australia has pledged to help Cyprus should any major bushfires occur in Troodhos like it did a couple of years ago. This will cost Australia millions, as it would require Heavy RAAF Galaxy Transport air lifting
personell and equipment.

This is a good thing for Cyprus, and Australia would do this because Cyprus assisted us with the Victorian bushfires. So one day, and I hope that day doesn't come, Cyprus will receive 10 fold in return.
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Postby supporttheunderdog » Sun May 29, 2011 7:12 am

Paphitis wrote:
What Australian and American POWs had to endure would make your skin crawl. Today's Japs have no idea about the atrocities committed under the Emperor's name and let me just add, as gruesome as the Germans were, they had nothing on the Japs.

Double standards!


I must disagree with you there: the Japanese never had gas chambers for the planned extermination of entire racial groups, and what the Nazi regime did in Russia and to Russian POW"s was was every bit as bad as what the Japanese did to British POW, with death marches and starvation: My family is short of at least one relative on my wife's side of the family as a result.

This is overloked due to the selective teaching of History in favour the sucess of Western Allies, which often ommits the crititical contribution of the the Soviet union and the cruelties inflicted generally on the various Slavic peoples, or "untermensch" as they were described by the Nazi's.

We Britsh complain about how bad we had it becuase of the Blitz: no doubt it was bad, but we vever had as bad as the occupied countries, of which we have to particularly recall the suffering of the Greeks and their steadfast valiant and often truly herioc resistance to the Nazi's, and what happened in the rest of Eastern Europe.
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