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[Get Real!]

Headed for a federation or division?

We have had division since July 1974, so what on earth are you talking about?

If you’re gonna start threads start using your head first.

[antifon]

Headed for a federation or division?

We have had division since July 1974, so what on earth are you talking about?

If you’re gonna start threads start using your head first.

The title referred to Turkey, not Cyprus.
Had you read the content you might have caught it.

[Get Real!]

Headed for a federation or division?

We have had division since July 1974, so what on earth are you talking about?

If you’re gonna start threads start using your head first.

The title referred to Turkey, not Cyprus.
Had you read the content you might have caught it.

Then use your head to write meaningful titles!

Being a Cyprus forum, every title that doesn’t indicate a country automatically implies Cyprus as in…

Are we… “Headed for a federation or division?”

Is Cyprus… ”Headed for a federation or division?”

But NOBODY would EVER assume...

Is Turkey… ”Headed for a federation or division?”


Have a look at ALL your thread’s responses... they ALL assume "Cyprus" because you're an IDIOT!

[antifon]

Headed for a federation or division?

We have had division since July 1974, so what on earth are you talking about?

If you’re gonna start threads start using your head first.

The title referred to Turkey, not Cyprus.
Had you read the content you might have caught it.

Then use your head to write meaningful titles!

Being a Cyprus forum, every title that doesn’t indicate a country automatically implies Cyprus as in…

Are we… “Headed for a federation or division?”

Is Cyprus… ”Headed for a federation or division?”

But NOBODY would EVER assume...

Is Turkey… ”Headed for a federation or division?”


Have a look at ALL your thread’s responses... they ALL assume "Cyprus" because you're an IDIOT!

I would normally be offended. But in this case I take comfort in who the messenger is.

[humanist]

I guess cultures are always evolving as does life .... if we are replaced by settlers so be it lol

I disagree strongly that any Cyprus will have elements of discrimination against a majority population so a minority can benefit at a cost to another human being. Europe boasts itself on being democratic values it cannot accept an EU State that discriminates on basis of one's ethnicity.

In view of what has been happening in the occupied area of late where some TC's are fed up with their situation the TC leadrship has not made any recommendations which will move the negotiations forward.

Therefore now that they have been told of the situation and action that will take or in this case not Eroglu needs to re assess his role. Represent Turkey or represent the TC's

[Pyrpolizer]

And what will be the result of replacing the TC's with 1 or 2 million Turkish settlers? Unless we are blind, we should be able to see that we will eventually perish too. In 2003, when we had Turkey in the corner and we could have reversed this, we chose to believe a sick nationalist, that a European solution was just around the corner.

I never said the replacing of the Kibrislis with settlers will be on the benefit of the Kypreos or the whole of Cypriots. The occupied area cannot sustain the population numbers you stated. The total population will be as it is today about 350, 000.

You are always bringing back the Anan Plan and other issues that we discussed a million times. On some issues we agree on most we don't.(and so do most of the Kypreos) This monolithic view of yours and your using so strong words, does not differentiate you much from a fanatic my friend.

[Pyrpolizer]

Headed for a federation or division?

We have had division since July 1974, so what on earth are you talking about?

If you’re gonna start threads start using your head first.

The title referred to Turkey, not Cyprus.
Had you read the content you might have caught it.

Then use your head to write meaningful titles!

Being a Cyprus forum, every title that doesn’t indicate a country automatically implies Cyprus as in…

Are we… “Headed for a federation or division?”

Is Cyprus… ”Headed for a federation or division?”

But NOBODY would EVER assume...

Is Turkey… ”Headed for a federation or division?”

Well, well, well.. Thx for spotting it GR.
I hope I am not the only one who thought the topic was about CYPRUS

[Kikapu]

And what will be the result of replacing the TC's with 1 or 2 million Turkish settlers? Unless we are blind, we should be able to see that we will eventually perish too.

Had the AP passed in 2004, there would have been 1-2 million Turks in Cyprus today already if it was Turkey's intentions to have that many, only they wouldn't have been here as Illegal Aliens, but as legal Cypriot citizens, thanks to the north state issuing Cypriot citizenship to as many Turks as it wanted, many on the black market, I'm sure, so what would you have done then, Bananiot.?

In 2003, when we had Turkey in the corner and we could have reversed this

Turkey was cornered in 2003? HOW.?

we chose to believe a sick nationalist, that a European solution was just around the corner.

The European solution is the BIG political stick the RoC now holds over Turkey's head with her EU prospects. What would the RoC have over Turkey today, who would have had the run of the island had the AP passed in 2004.?

[Nikitas]

Federation IS division, but with a more polite face. Statements from the likes of Clinton, EU official et al, talking about reunification while meaning federation is fraud on Cypriots.

Peole are being led to believe that Federation will reunite the island. It will not. The sooner we realise this and talk about it openly the better. And precisely because Federation equals division it is important to settle the essentials, like territory and property and demarcation lines in the most fair possible manner.

[Piratis]

And what will be the result of replacing the TC's with 1 or 2 million Turkish settlers? Unless we are blind, we should be able to see that we will eventually perish too. In 2003, when we had Turkey in the corner and we could have reversed this, we chose to believe a sick nationalist, that a European solution was just around the corner.

Funny how sick idiots continue to say the same nonsense 7 years after the referendum.

You were predicting that we the "trnc" would be recognized or become another "Taiwan" if we dared to reject the Annan partition plan. It didn't happen.

You were saying that we would soon regret that we didn't vote for the Annan plan. It didn't happen. On the contrary, the only major party who supported that plan (DISY), realized its mistake and changed its tune about the Annan plan in order to regain the lost votes, while the smaller party which supported the Annan plan (EDI) disappeared, since more than half of its supporters abandoned that party after their decision to support the Annan plan, and those who were left were not enough to give to the party a seat in the parliament.

Now you continue saying more nonsense that we will supposedly "perish" because we didn't vote for your racist plan. No my friend, today 2/3rds of Cyprus continue to be free and Turkey and the settlers can do nothing to make us perish.

On the contrary if we had voted for the Annan plan, the Settlers not only would not stop coming to Cyprus (who would stop them? The TC leadership, who are the puppets of Turkey and who would control the northern coast) but they would be free to roam the whole island and 10s of thousands of them would even be given the Cypriot citizenship! Even worst, the whole Cyprus would become a puppet state of Turkey as the "trnc" is today, since no important decision would be possible without the agreement of the puppets of Turkey.

A solution means the liberation of the north part of our island from the foreign invaders, not the enslavement of the whole island, with a "solution" that will not allow the Cypriot people to democratically rule their own island.

Just because the liberation of the north part of Cyprus is not possible today, this doesn't mean we should also enslave the remaining 2/3rds. The Cypriot people rejected the Annan plan because it was a bad plan that it is worst than even from the bad status quo, not because we were expecting some "European Solution".