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[repulsewarrior]

Cyprus museum like Cyprus Forum implies something bigger than being Cypriot. Beside the dwellers there are the island's natural forms, which includes (as well) all its living things. moreso, with desertification a likely aspect of our environment and the growth in population we can assume if the Problem finds its solution, a museum on Cyprus would be valuable not just to Cypriots but to all who seek this knowledge within its halls.

Cypriot society is in an (r)evolutionary state after about three hundred years of isolation. much of this past is to be somehow preserved, this is true. however, a museum of Cypriot antiquity will include lifestyles long ago abandoned (by thousands of years) compared to the Cypriot of today; both are elements of a Cypriot identity, however, they will represent only a section of the Museum if its mission is to study this land, and as a part of this History the people who have dwelled (or who are dwelling) on it.

my two cents, thanks Filitsa.

a Cypriot first does not have to be a "Greek" or (not) a "Turk", they are Individuals who Love, and who are giving to its Heritance, yet we can choose to sustain an identity as Persons as well; this is Bicommunal: if you believe in Cyprus read my manifesto.

[SKI-preo]

Other airlines are V-Australia & Air China not Chinese & Air New Zealand.

What about Shoushoukon ths katw paphos not Katw Paphian Shoushoukon

[ZoC]

cypriot as an adjective means, inter alia, ‘of or relating to cyprus or its people or culture’.

therefore anything pertaining to cyprus is properly described as cypriot, not cyprus – eg cypriot food, not cyprus food (which sounds ridiculous).

thus cypriot forum is more correct than cyprus forum and implies no exclusion of non-cypriots (any more than cypriot food implies food that can only be eaten by cypriots).

in english, nouns can of course be used adjectivally where there is no suitable adjective, eg thames water, london transport. (note that londoner is a noun, not an adjective, ruling out londoner transport.)

but since the adjectives british and english exist, we have british gas and english heritage, not britain gas and england heritage.

the adjectival use of cyprus is anomalous and arguably grammatically incorrect, if not downright bad english, given the existence of the perfectly good adjective cypriot.

mind you, it might be useful to describe the 'mainlandists' as greece cypriots and turkey cypriots going forward...

[ZoC]

Other airlines are V-Australia & Air China not Chinese & Air New Zealand.

yes and air france... too. air french don't work. nor would air british or air cypriot.... it would be air cyprus, like bank (of) cyprus. (trapeza kyprou)....

[Filitsa]

not sure i concur fully but, for the record, i don't object to the term, 'cyprus forum'... i just think 'cypriot forum' would be even better.

Oh, Zoc, I really didn't want to bore you with my grammatical interpretation, but you asked for it.

fine. let's play.

Grrr! I ain't playin'! Them thars fightin' words!

"Cypriot" can function in one of two ways, as a noun or an adjective. As a noun, it names someone from Cyprus. As an adjective, it describes a noun.

First, we shall explore the term "Cypriot Forum." Assuming "Cypriot" is a noun, when "Cypriot" and "Forum" are juxtaposed, a compound noun has been created. As you may already know, a compound noun is two words brought together to create a noun. The compound noun "Cypriot Forum" denotes a forum of people from Cyprus (however, Cypriots (plural) Forum would be the correct way of expressing this). I think we both agree that this is inapplicable to our beloved forum.

Assuming "Cypriot" is an adjective that means "of or relating to Cyprus," when "Cypriot" and "Forum" are juxtaposed, "Cypriot" functions to describe the noun "Forum," denoting that the Forum is either "of Cyprus, which is incorrect," or "relating to Cyprus." I think we both agree that the latter is applicable.

Now, let's explore the term "Cyprus Forum." The word "Cyprus" is a noun and only a noun. "Cyprus" and "Forum" juxtaposed create a compound noun, denoting an internet forum pertaining to Cyprus. However, sometimes nouns can function as adjectives, as in "internet account" whereby "internet" describes the type of account so as to distinguish it from other types of accounts such as a bank account or a credit account, etc. In the same manner, it can be argued that the noun "Cyprus" functions as an adjective to describe the type of forum to distinguish it from a meteorogly forum or an education forum, and especially a Greece or Turkey forum , etc.

Whereas "Cypriot Forum" presents a bit of a misnomer in that one could interpret it as a forum of or for Cypriots, which is factually untrue as it applies to our beloved forum, Cyprus Forum does not. The latter is not only correct but is also a more accurate name for the forum. I rest my case.

[ZoC]

Grrr! I ain't playin'! Them thars fightin' words!

u may not be playing but i am, as i don't object to "cyprus forum" as i do terms like "cyprus museum", "cyprus embassy", "cyprus football association", "cyprus olympic team" etc. (how could i if i want to stay in admins good book? ). i am merely indulging u for illustrative purposes.

Assuming "Cypriot" is an adjective

which it is....

that means "of or relating to Cyprus," when "Cypriot" and "Forum" are juxtaposed, "Cypriot" functions to describe the noun "Forum," denoting that the Forum is either "of Cyprus, which is incorrect," or "relating to Cyprus." I think we both agree that the latter is applicable.

perfect. a forum "relating to cyprus".... but a forum "of cyprus" is also OK as the issues discussed on the forum are "of cyprus"...

Now, let's explore the term "Cyprus Forum." The word "Cyprus" is a noun and only a noun.

correct. only a noun.

"Cyprus" and "Forum" juxtaposed create a compound noun, denoting an internet forum pertaining to Cyprus. However, sometimes nouns can function as adjectives, as in "internet account"

correct. but only because such words (nouns) do not have adjectival equivalents. if, for example, u had two bank accounts, one in america and one in cyprus, they would be ur "american account" and ur "cypriot account", there being adjectives for both countries.

whereby "internet" describes the type of account so as to distinguish it from other types of accounts such as a bank account or a credit account, etc. In the same manner, it can be argued that the noun "Cyprus" functions as an adjective

no, that's incorrect. cyprus (as u say) is a noun and only a noun. it is not an adjective. cyprus is used incorrectly as an adjective. there is an adjective for things relating to cyprus.... (cypriot).

to describe the type of forum to distinguish it from a meteorogly forum or an education forum, and especially a Greece or Turkey forum , etc.

Whereas "Cypriot Forum" presents a bit of a misnomer in that one could interpret it as a forum of or for Cypriots,

only because cypriots (due to cultural imperialism) have neglected to use the term "cypriot" to describe things cypriot. so people assume "cypriot" generally means a person from cyprus.

it would only be interpreted as a forum solely for cypriot people if, as us say, it was called "cypriots forum".

which is factually untrue as it applies to our beloved forum, Cyprus Forum does not. The latter is not only correct but is also a more accurate name for the forum. I rest my case.

it is not correct because, and i quote...

The word "Cyprus" is a noun and only a noun.

and shame u chose to sidestep completely all the cogent points i made in my earlier post to u. (i'm sure i don't need to explain wot the noun 'forum' means to u).

[Filitsa]

Cyprus museum like Cyprus Forum implies something bigger than being Cypriot. Beside the dwellers there are the island's natural forms, which includes (as well) all its living things. moreso, with desertification a likely aspect of our environment and the growth in population we can assume if the Problem finds its solution, a museum on Cyprus would be valuable not just to Cypriots but to all who seek this knowledge within its halls.

Cypriot society is in an (r)evolutionary state after about three hundred years of isolation. much of this past is to be somehow preserved, this is true. however, a museum of Cypriot antiquity will include lifestyles long ago abandoned (by thousands of years) compared to the Cypriot of today; both are elements of a Cypriot identity, however, they will represent only a section of the Museum if its mission is to study this land, and as a part of this History the people who have dwelled (or who are dwelling) on it.

my two cents, thanks Filitsa.

a Cypriot first does not have to be a "Greek" or (not) a "Turk", they are Individuals who Love, and who are giving to its Heritance, yet we can choose to sustain an identity as Persons as well; this is Bicommunal: if you believe in Cyprus read my manifesto.

You are quite welcome, repulsewarrior. As the saying goes, "great minds think alike." (and understand grammar) I am convinced that, in a few more exchanges, Zoc will be of a like mind.

[Filitsa]

Grrr! I ain't playin'! Them thars fightin' words!

u may not be playing but i am, as i don't object to "cyprus forum" as i do terms like "cyprus museum", "cyprus embassy", "cyprus football association", "cyprus olympic team" etc. (how could i if i want to stay in admins good book? ). i am merely indulging u for illustrative purposes.

Assuming "Cypriot" is an adjective

which it is....

that means "of or relating to Cyprus," when "Cypriot" and "Forum" are juxtaposed, "Cypriot" functions to describe the noun "Forum," denoting that the Forum is either "of Cyprus, which is incorrect," or "relating to Cyprus." I think we both agree that the latter is applicable.

perfect. a forum "relating to cyprus".... but a forum "of cyprus" is also OK as the issues discussed on the forum are "of cyprus"...

Now, let's explore the term "Cyprus Forum." The word "Cyprus" is a noun and only a noun.

correct. only a noun.

"Cyprus" and "Forum" juxtaposed create a compound noun, denoting an internet forum pertaining to Cyprus. However, sometimes nouns can function as adjectives, as in "internet account"

correct. but only because such words (nouns) do not have adjectival equivalents. if, for example, u had two bank accounts, one in america and one in cyprus, they would be ur "american account" and ur "cypriot account", there being adjectives for both countries.

whereby "internet" describes the type of account so as to distinguish it from other types of accounts such as a bank account or a credit account, etc. In the same manner, it can be argued that the noun "Cyprus" functions as an adjective

no, that's incorrect. cyprus (as u say) is a noun and only a noun. it is not an adjective. cyprus is used incorrectly as an adjective. there is an adjective for things relating to cyprus.... (cypriot).

to describe the type of forum to distinguish it from a meteorogly forum or an education forum, and especially a Greece or Turkey forum , etc.

Whereas "Cypriot Forum" presents a bit of a misnomer in that one could interpret it as a forum of or for Cypriots,

only because cypriots (due to cultural imperialism) have neglected to use the term "cypriot" to describe things cypriot. so people assume "cypriot" generally means a person from cyprus.

it would only be interpreted as a forum solely for cypriot people if, as us say, it was called "cypriots forum".

which is factually untrue as it applies to our beloved forum, Cyprus Forum does not. The latter is not only correct but is also a more accurate name for the forum. I rest my case.

it is not correct because, and i quote...

The word "Cyprus" is a noun and only a noun.

and shame u chose to sidestep completely all the cogent points i made in my earlier post to u. (i'm sure i don't need to explain wot the noun 'forum' means to you.

Shame on me? Your "cogent points" aren't so cogent, considering that you're only playing with me. ... Shame that you prefaced them with such a thought. Further, an intelligent individual such as yourself should recognize that I indeed addressed your points. Perhaps it 's the paragraph format that I employ - as opposed to the point-by-point approach you require - that unsettles you? Nevertheless, you might want to consider the fact that a noun can serve to modify another noun , as in my previous examples "internet account," "bank account," and "credit account." The same applies to "Cyprus Museum," "Cyprus Embassy," "Cyprus Football Association," and "Cyprus Olympic Team." Whether Cyprus versus Cypriot is used is a matter of style.

I'm pleased we agree that "Cyprus Forum" is an accurate name for the forum. I'm sure admin. is sleeping better tonight.

[repulsewarrior]

..oh goodie, then we can get to the Cyprus Problem, which is, actually, a Cypriot problem.

[Filitsa]

..oh goodie, then we can get to the Cyprus Problem, which is, actually, a Cypriot problem.

By "Cypriot problem," I hope you don't mean "a poblem for Cypriots" because it's a problem for more than only Cypriots.