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Postby Viewpoint » Thu May 19, 2011 12:15 am

supporttheunderdog wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Korean vs Korea????


yeah- that's been happening since the 1950's....


So its happens?
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Postby Filitsa » Fri May 20, 2011 7:34 pm

Behold the real tragedy of cultural imperialism:

supporttheunderdog wrote:no, the majority are Kypreos who speak Greek, and there is minority who are Kibrislis who speak Turkish, or is Filitsa an Enosis/Takist partionst, by describing the North as Turkishm when it should be an indivisble part of the Republic of Cyprus ?

I otherwise agree with ZoC's last remark.


You neoCyps swallow it "hook, line, and sinker" with your symantics games and need to label, stereotype (I subscribe neither to "Enosis" nor "Taksim"), compartmentalize, and worst of all, deny reality to the extent that you don't even know who you are or from where you came. Is it any wonder you don't know where you're going?

I knew an elderly gentleman who was born in CY at the turn of the Twentieth Century. He referred to himself as a Greek Cypriot, and so was it listed on his immigration documents twenty years later. He settled in a neighborhood inhabited by Greek immigrants and Cypriot immigrants who identified with the Greek culture. These were the people with whom he identified. There's no denying it.

Fast-forward to the mid '70's. I patronized a tailor shop. To my delight, the tailor was from Cyprus. He referred to himself as Turkish Cypriot. Although he did befriend my dad, he did not assimilate into the local Greek American community. He did not identify with them. He identified with with local people of Turkish culture. There's no denying it.

The notion that there exist Cypriots who identify with the Greek culture and Cypriots who identify with the Turkish culture is a reality. Why isn't it accepted as such? My point is this: Greek and Turkish identity is an integral part of Cypriot culture. And it begs the question, "What have the neoCyps accomplished by denying this reality?"
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Postby ZoC » Fri May 20, 2011 7:40 pm

Filitsa wrote:You neoCyps swallow it "hook, line, and sinker" with your symantics games and need to label, stereotype, compartmentalize, and worst of all, deny reality to the extent that you don't even know who you are or from where you came. Is it any wonder you don't know where you're going?

I knew an elderly gentleman who was born in CY at the turn of the Twentieth Century. He referred to himself as a Greek Cypriot, and so was it listed on his immigration documents twenty years later. He settled in a neighborhood inhabited by Greek immigrants and Cypriot immigrants who identified with the Greek culture. These were the people with whom he identified. There's no denying it.

Fast-forward to the mid '70's. I patronized a tailor shop. To my delight, the tailor was from Cyprus. He referred to himself as Turkish Cypriot. Although he did befriend my dad, he did not assimilate into the local Greek American community. He did not identify with them. He identified with with local people of Turkish culture. There's no denying it.

In my country, the proportion of Cypriots who identify with the Greek culture and the proportion of Cypriots who identify with the Turkish culture is a microcosm of Cyprus. Isn't it the same in England and Australia? The point is this: Greek and Turkish identity is an integral part of Cypriot culture. And it begs the question, "What have the neoCyps accomplished by denying this reality?"


f*ck off calling me a neocyp. wot's any of this garbage got to do with this thread, u ancient greek twit?
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Postby Filitsa » Fri May 20, 2011 7:48 pm

ZoC wrote:
Filitsa wrote:You neoCyps swallow it "hook, line, and sinker" with your symantics games and need to label, stereotype, compartmentalize, and worst of all, deny reality to the extent that you don't even know who you are or from where you came. Is it any wonder you don't know where you're going?

I knew an elderly gentleman who was born in CY at the turn of the Twentieth Century. He referred to himself as a Greek Cypriot, and so was it listed on his immigration documents twenty years later. He settled in a neighborhood inhabited by Greek immigrants and Cypriot immigrants who identified with the Greek culture. These were the people with whom he identified. There's no denying it.

Fast-forward to the mid '70's. I patronized a tailor shop. To my delight, the tailor was from Cyprus. He referred to himself as Turkish Cypriot. Although he did befriend my dad, he did not assimilate into the local Greek American community. He did not identify with them. He identified with with local people of Turkish culture. There's no denying it.

In my country, the proportion of Cypriots who identify with the Greek culture and the proportion of Cypriots who identify with the Turkish culture is a microcosm of Cyprus. Isn't it the same in England and Australia? The point is this: Greek and Turkish identity is an integral part of Cypriot culture. And it begs the question, "What have the neoCyps accomplished by denying this reality?"


f*ck off calling me a neocyp. wot's any of this garbage got to do with this thread, u ancient greek twit?


Although I don't recall calling you a neoCyp, apparently you've recognized something about yourself in my post.
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri May 20, 2011 7:50 pm

If the cap fits.............
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Postby ZoC » Fri May 20, 2011 7:50 pm

Filitsa wrote:
ZoC wrote:
Filitsa wrote:You neoCyps swallow it "hook, line, and sinker" with your symantics games and need to label, stereotype, compartmentalize, and worst of all, deny reality to the extent that you don't even know who you are or from where you came. Is it any wonder you don't know where you're going?

I knew an elderly gentleman who was born in CY at the turn of the Twentieth Century. He referred to himself as a Greek Cypriot, and so was it listed on his immigration documents twenty years later. He settled in a neighborhood inhabited by Greek immigrants and Cypriot immigrants who identified with the Greek culture. These were the people with whom he identified. There's no denying it.

Fast-forward to the mid '70's. I patronized a tailor shop. To my delight, the tailor was from Cyprus. He referred to himself as Turkish Cypriot. Although he did befriend my dad, he did not assimilate into the local Greek American community. He did not identify with them. He identified with with local people of Turkish culture. There's no denying it.

In my country, the proportion of Cypriots who identify with the Greek culture and the proportion of Cypriots who identify with the Turkish culture is a microcosm of Cyprus. Isn't it the same in England and Australia? The point is this: Greek and Turkish identity is an integral part of Cypriot culture. And it begs the question, "What have the neoCyps accomplished by denying this reality?"


f*ck off calling me a neocyp. wot's any of this garbage got to do with this thread, u ancient greek twit?


Although I don't recall calling you a neoCyp, apparently you've recognized something about yourself in my post.


i recognise nothing. r u referring to me or not when u used the plural?
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Postby Filitsa » Fri May 20, 2011 7:53 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:no, the majority are Kypreos who speak Greek, and there is minority who are Kibrislis who speak Turkish, or is Filitsa an Enosis/Takist partionst, by describing the North as Turkishm when it should be an indivisble part of the Republic of Cyprus ?

I otherwise agree with ZoC's last remark.


Yes, it "should" be an indivisible part of the Republic of Cyprus, but it isn't. It is, however, becoming increasingly more Turkish with each passing day. Do you deny this?
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Postby Filitsa » Fri May 20, 2011 8:01 pm

ZoC wrote:
Filitsa wrote:
ZoC wrote:
Filitsa wrote:You neoCyps swallow it "hook, line, and sinker" with your symantics games and need to label, stereotype, compartmentalize, and worst of all, deny reality to the extent that you don't even know who you are or from where you came. Is it any wonder you don't know where you're going?

I knew an elderly gentleman who was born in CY at the turn of the Twentieth Century. He referred to himself as a Greek Cypriot, and so was it listed on his immigration documents twenty years later. He settled in a neighborhood inhabited by Greek immigrants and Cypriot immigrants who identified with the Greek culture. These were the people with whom he identified. There's no denying it.

Fast-forward to the mid '70's. I patronized a tailor shop. To my delight, the tailor was from Cyprus. He referred to himself as Turkish Cypriot. Although he did befriend my dad, he did not assimilate into the local Greek American community. He did not identify with them. He identified with with local people of Turkish culture. There's no denying it.

In my country, the proportion of Cypriots who identify with the Greek culture and the proportion of Cypriots who identify with the Turkish culture is a microcosm of Cyprus. Isn't it the same in England and Australia? The point is this: Greek and Turkish identity is an integral part of Cypriot culture. And it begs the question, "What have the neoCyps accomplished by denying this reality?"


f*ck off calling me a neocyp. wot's any of this garbage got to do with this thread, u ancient greek twit?


Although I don't recall calling you a neoCyp, apparently you've recognized something about yourself in my post.


i recognise nothing. r u referring to me or not when u used the plural?


Do you always "fly off the handle" first and ask questions later?
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Postby Cap » Fri May 20, 2011 8:03 pm

Use this one for my FB profile sometimes
I'm sure ZoC remembers it. hehe

Enjoy

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Postby ZoC » Fri May 20, 2011 8:31 pm

Cap wrote:Use this one for my FB profile sometimes
I'm sure ZoC remembers it. hehe

Enjoy

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very good, cap.
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