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Postby ZoC » Thu May 12, 2011 11:44 pm

can't believe i'm getting so much stick over those knickers...:lol:

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Postby Filitsa » Fri May 13, 2011 12:32 am

Lose the stick and help him out. He can't spell, he can't type, and obviously he can't kiss.
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Postby supporttheunderdog » Sat May 14, 2011 3:48 pm

'ho is meant to be 'elpin' out 'ho.

I don't need no 'elp and an' I'm bleddin' sure ZoC don't need no 'elp either.
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Postby ZoC » Mon May 16, 2011 10:39 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-13417928

Cyprus court jails men for stealing Papadopoulos' body

A Cyprus court has found three men guilty of stealing the body of the former President Tassos Papadopoulos.

Two Greek Cypriot brothers and an Indian national were found guilty of taking the body from the grave in 2009.

They were given prison sentences of up to 20 months for the crimes of exhuming a corpse and trespass.

One of the brothers hoped to use the body to negotiate his release from prison, where he is serving life sentences for murder.

A few months after the theft the police found the body buried at a cemetery in suburban Nicosia three miles (5km) away from where it was originally buried.

etc....




so cultural imperialistic "britain broadcasting corporation".... wot's wrong with "cypriot" court?
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon May 16, 2011 11:10 pm

ZoC wrote:cypriot as an adjective means, inter alia, ‘of or relating to cyprus or its people or culture’.

therefore anything pertaining to cyprus is properly described as cypriot, not cyprus – eg cypriot food, not cyprus food (which sounds ridiculous).

thus cypriot forum is more correct than cyprus forum and implies no exclusion of non-cypriots (any more than cypriot food implies food that can only be eaten by cypriots).

in english, nouns can of course be used adjectivally where there is no suitable adjective, eg thames water, london transport. (note that londoner is a noun, not an adjective, ruling out londoner transport.)

but since the adjectives british and english exist, we have british gas and english heritage, not britain gas and england heritage.

the adjectival use of cyprus is anomalous and arguably grammatically incorrect, if not downright bad english, given the existence of the perfectly good adjective cypriot.

mind you, it might be useful to describe the 'mainlandists' as greece cypriots and turkey cypriots going forward...


Vay be... Nuh der pergamber demez says I.

Would one be a Cypriot Turk or a Cyprus Turk as opposed to a Turkish Cypriot?

Personally I am a Cypriot.

If I cook some Molekhia in London according to a recipe used in Cyprus, can we call it 'Cypriot food' or 'Cyprus food'. Personally I would call it 'Egyptian molekhia' .
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Postby kurupetos » Mon May 16, 2011 11:23 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
ZoC wrote:cypriot as an adjective means, inter alia, ‘of or relating to cyprus or its people or culture’.

therefore anything pertaining to cyprus is properly described as cypriot, not cyprus – eg cypriot food, not cyprus food (which sounds ridiculous).

thus cypriot forum is more correct than cyprus forum and implies no exclusion of non-cypriots (any more than cypriot food implies food that can only be eaten by cypriots).

in english, nouns can of course be used adjectivally where there is no suitable adjective, eg thames water, london transport. (note that londoner is a noun, not an adjective, ruling out londoner transport.)

but since the adjectives british and english exist, we have british gas and english heritage, not britain gas and england heritage.

the adjectival use of cyprus is anomalous and arguably grammatically incorrect, if not downright bad english, given the existence of the perfectly good adjective cypriot.

mind you, it might be useful to describe the 'mainlandists' as greece cypriots and turkey cypriots going forward...


Vay be... Nuh der pergamber demez says I.

Would one be a Cypriot Turk or a Cyprus Turk as opposed to a Turkish Cypriot?

Personally I am a Cypriot.

If I cook some Molekhia in London according to a recipe used in Cyprus, can we call it 'Cypriot food' or 'Cyprus food'. Personally I would call it 'Egyptian molekhia' .


Traitor! :evil:
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon May 16, 2011 11:36 pm

kurupetos wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
ZoC wrote:cypriot as an adjective means, inter alia, ‘of or relating to cyprus or its people or culture’.

therefore anything pertaining to cyprus is properly described as cypriot, not cyprus – eg cypriot food, not cyprus food (which sounds ridiculous).

thus cypriot forum is more correct than cyprus forum and implies no exclusion of non-cypriots (any more than cypriot food implies food that can only be eaten by cypriots).

in english, nouns can of course be used adjectivally where there is no suitable adjective, eg thames water, london transport. (note that londoner is a noun, not an adjective, ruling out londoner transport.)

but since the adjectives british and english exist, we have british gas and english heritage, not britain gas and england heritage.

the adjectival use of cyprus is anomalous and arguably grammatically incorrect, if not downright bad english, given the existence of the perfectly good adjective cypriot.

mind you, it might be useful to describe the 'mainlandists' as greece cypriots and turkey cypriots going forward...


Vay be... Nuh der pergamber demez says I.

Would one be a Cypriot Turk or a Cyprus Turk as opposed to a Turkish Cypriot?

Personally I am a Cypriot.

If I cook some Molekhia in London according to a recipe used in Cyprus, can we call it 'Cypriot food' or 'Cyprus food'. Personally I would call it 'Egyptian molekhia' .


Traitor! :evil:


Explain yourself Helen. :lol:
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Postby kurupetos » Tue May 17, 2011 12:29 am

denizaksulu wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
ZoC wrote:cypriot as an adjective means, inter alia, ‘of or relating to cyprus or its people or culture’.

therefore anything pertaining to cyprus is properly described as cypriot, not cyprus – eg cypriot food, not cyprus food (which sounds ridiculous).

thus cypriot forum is more correct than cyprus forum and implies no exclusion of non-cypriots (any more than cypriot food implies food that can only be eaten by cypriots).

in english, nouns can of course be used adjectivally where there is no suitable adjective, eg thames water, london transport. (note that londoner is a noun, not an adjective, ruling out londoner transport.)

but since the adjectives british and english exist, we have british gas and english heritage, not britain gas and england heritage.

the adjectival use of cyprus is anomalous and arguably grammatically incorrect, if not downright bad english, given the existence of the perfectly good adjective cypriot.

mind you, it might be useful to describe the 'mainlandists' as greece cypriots and turkey cypriots going forward...


Vay be... Nuh der pergamber demez says I.

Would one be a Cypriot Turk or a Cyprus Turk as opposed to a Turkish Cypriot?

Personally I am a Cypriot.

If I cook some Molekhia in London according to a recipe used in Cyprus, can we call it 'Cypriot food' or 'Cyprus food'. Personally I would call it 'Egyptian molekhia' .


Traitor! :evil:


Explain yourself Helen. :lol:


:lol: It's Hellene, my osmanli friend.

Cypriot cuisine

Place the molehiya leaves in a pot with the required amount of cold water and bring the water to boil. Next use a strainer to drain the leaves by squeezing the water out of them. In the meantime saute the chicken pieces in the pressure cooker with the olive oil. To this add the chopped garlic cloves and the chopped onion and the peeled and diced tomatoes. After this process add the drained molehiya leaves, the lemon juice, the chilli and tomato paste, the chicken cube and salt to taste. Before closing the lid of the pressure cooker cover the ingredients with adequate amount of water. Lock the lid of the cooker and after the sound of the first whistle, allow another 20 minutes for it to be ready for service.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulukhiyah
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Postby denizaksulu » Tue May 17, 2011 12:47 am

kurupetos wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
ZoC wrote:cypriot as an adjective means, inter alia, ‘of or relating to cyprus or its people or culture’.

therefore anything pertaining to cyprus is properly described as cypriot, not cyprus – eg cypriot food, not cyprus food (which sounds ridiculous).

thus cypriot forum is more correct than cyprus forum and implies no exclusion of non-cypriots (any more than cypriot food implies food that can only be eaten by cypriots).

in english, nouns can of course be used adjectivally where there is no suitable adjective, eg thames water, london transport. (note that londoner is a noun, not an adjective, ruling out londoner transport.)

but since the adjectives british and english exist, we have british gas and english heritage, not britain gas and england heritage.

the adjectival use of cyprus is anomalous and arguably grammatically incorrect, if not downright bad english, given the existence of the perfectly good adjective cypriot.

mind you, it might be useful to describe the 'mainlandists' as greece cypriots and turkey cypriots going forward...


Vay be... Nuh der pergamber demez says I.

Would one be a Cypriot Turk or a Cyprus Turk as opposed to a Turkish Cypriot?

Personally I am a Cypriot.

If I cook some Molekhia in London according to a recipe used in Cyprus, can we call it 'Cypriot food' or 'Cyprus food'. Personally I would call it 'Egyptian molekhia' .


Traitor! :evil:


Explain yourself Helen. :lol:


:lol: It's Hellene, my osmanli friend.

Cypriot cuisine

Place the molehiya leaves in a pot with the required amount of cold water and bring the water to boil. Next use a strainer to drain the leaves by squeezing the water out of them. In the meantime saute the chicken pieces in the pressure cooker with the olive oil. To this add the chopped garlic cloves and the chopped onion and the peeled and diced tomatoes. After this process add the drained molehiya leaves, the lemon juice, the chilli and tomato paste, the chicken cube and salt to taste. Before closing the lid of the pressure cooker cover the ingredients with adequate amount of water. Lock the lid of the cooker and after the sound of the first whistle, allow another 20 minutes for it to be ready for service.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mulukhiyah


What a difference a 'L' makes.

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Postby ZoC » Tue May 17, 2011 6:24 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Would one be a Cypriot Turk or a Cyprus Turk as opposed to a Turkish Cypriot?

Personally I am a Cypriot.


i think one would be a "turkey cypriot" or, better still, a "cypriot turkey"....

denizaksulu wrote:If I cook some Molekhia in London according to a recipe used in Cyprus, can we call it 'Cypriot food' or 'Cyprus food'. Personally I would call it 'Egyptian molekhia' .


cypriot food... u wouldn't call a curry "india food"? unless, perhaps, u were a cultural imperialist who worked for the "britain broadcasting corporation".
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