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[B25]

What is an issue for me, is that my interest in posting, what drives me to do it, is a hope that some kind of 'progress' can be made, either in my understanding or others. After posting here for nigh on 7 years it is apparent that such a hope is in vain. That is why these days I pop on, see that the hope of making any progress , either way is in vain and stop again. Nothing to do with how the forum is run, but a realisation of the limits of ANY forums to make progress on these kind of issues. Over time hope rebuilds that something has changed, I try posting and come away realising that it has not, and withdraw again.

My sentiments exactly, erolz3

Says one turk to another!

You still illegally hold our country at gun point, and you moan about how the forum is run??? or that people still feel sore about the Cyprob?? Why should they feel any different, you are still there, arn't you??

[erolz3]

Says one turk to another!

You still illegally hold our country at gun point, and you moan about how the forum is run??? or that people still feel sore about the Cyprob?? Why should they feel any different, you are still there, arn't you??

Thanks for high lighting and underlining the point I was trying to make in post Sun May 08, 2011 10:31 pm in this thread so clearly B25.

For your information I am not a Turk. I am of mixed hertiage, thsoe mixed heritages being British and Cypriot. As far as the cypriot part goes my heritage is that of a turkish cypriot rather than a greek cypriot or marionite cypriot or any other kind of CYPRIOT.

[B25]

Says one turk to another!

You still illegally hold our country at gun point, and you moan about how the forum is run??? or that people still feel sore about the Cyprob?? Why should they feel any different, you are still there, arn't you??

Thanks for high lighting and underlining the point I was trying to make in post Sun May 08, 2011 10:31 pm in this thread so clearly B25.

For your information I am not a Turk. I am of mixed hertiage, thsoe mixed heritages being British and Cypriot. As far as the cypriot part goes my heritage is that of a turkish cypriot rather than a greek cypriot or marionite cypriot or any other kind of CYPRIOT.

Regardless, you are still a turk. Call yourself what you please, you are still a turk.

We have a saying in Cyprus, no matter how many time you wash a dog, he still smells of dog, see the analogy???

[Bananiot]

Wrong parable fascist, the right one should be "a good Turk is a dead Turk" or half Turk at least.

[Pyrpolizer]

Fair enough. But it seems you expect us to change while I didn't see any change from you. Every time you tell us the same things. If you can not change then why should you expect that we will? I suggest the next time you come here to be changed yourself. otherwise don't bother

It is not really a case of I expect you to change without me changing. THe hope is more that we can have the 'space' were that is possible and whilst over the first year or so of participation in a place like this I did actualy change my perspectives on some things, having learnt some things and accepted them , past that point there is no further progress for me or others seemingly. The 'space' gets closed down.

Just take for example this simple issue , of is any and every document produced in the TRNC automatically legaly invalid internationaly simply because the TRNC is unrecognised. We could , togeather, potential make real progress on our combined understanding of the truth about this. However in reality we never do, because if I suggest it might be true, the automatic assumption by even the sincere, is that I am somehow trying to gain an 'advantage' for my side regadless of the actual truth. This leads to responses that seek to 'destroy' what I suggest might be the case, not motivated by a desire to know the truth by by a desire to counter what I say. Then there are also those that do not want to know the truth regardless because it might be true and they would rather people beleived an untruth that benefited 'thier side' than discover that it does not in this case.

So what starts as a simple 'inquiry' gets immediate met with 'so what about if documents etc, it doesnt matter because you stole from us, your are thieves, you are this that and the other', which lead to responses of 'we didnt , we aren't , you did to and so and so on' and the potnetial that was there for us to all togeather actual find a truth and increase our combined understanding is lost in all this.

And I do not say I am not equally a party to this 'process', I just say I have recognised that this is what happens. I have tried in the past to 'break through' and occsionaly (like now) make another attempt, but overall beyond a certain point they all such attempts have failed. This may be because it simply is not possible on fora like this, or I do not have the skill to break through, or that I am to 'brainwashed' to be able to break through. Any are possible reasons why, but hwatever the reasons its almost always a failure and after 8 years of such failures you get tired, need a rest, before thinking lets have another try at basdhin my head on a brick wall.

I believe personal relations are better, but then again those are also limited to persons we like.
Forums are just food for thought. And some funny "kavga" And perhaps understanding the other side for those who never had a chance.
However I do believe forums DO produce change. Probably not as much as one might wish, but they DO produce.

However wasting too much time on forums may get everyone tired, nervous, incoherent, hostile etc etc. And there comes a time a person has nothing more to say...

I see it coming to me... again.

[Pyrpolizer]

Says one turk to another!

You still illegally hold our country at gun point, and you moan about how the forum is run??? or that people still feel sore about the Cyprob?? Why should they feel any different, you are still there, arn't you??

Thanks for high lighting and underlining the point I was trying to make in post Sun May 08, 2011 10:31 pm in this thread so clearly B25.

For your information I am not a Turk. I am of mixed hertiage, thsoe mixed heritages being British and Cypriot. As far as the cypriot part goes my heritage is that of a turkish cypriot rather than a greek cypriot or marionite cypriot or any other kind of CYPRIOT.

Regardless, you are still a turk. Call yourself what you please, you are still a turk.

We have a saying in Cyprus, no matter how many time you wash a dog, he still smells of dog, see the analogy???

For most CYPRIOTS what you said is a nasty insult B25

[CopperLine]

Says one turk to another!

You still illegally hold our country at gun point, and you moan about how the forum is run??? or that people still feel sore about the Cyprob?? Why should they feel any different, you are still there, arn't you??

Thanks for high lighting and underlining the point I was trying to make in post Sun May 08, 2011 10:31 pm in this thread so clearly B25.

For your information I am not a Turk. I am of mixed hertiage, thsoe mixed heritages being British and Cypriot. As far as the cypriot part goes my heritage is that of a turkish cypriot rather than a greek cypriot or marionite cypriot or any other kind of CYPRIOT.

Regardless, you are still a turk. Call yourself what you please, you are still a turk.

We have a saying in Cyprus, no matter how many time you wash a dog, he still smells of dog, see the analogy???

You've proved the point I made very well B25.

Regardless, you are still a twat. Call yourself what you please, you are still a twat.

We have a saying in north London, you can't polish a turd, no matter how hard you try, it is still a turd, see the analogy ???

Has this little exchange advanced things one bit ? No. Have you learnt anything ? No. Do you feel more pissed off ? Yes.
What's wrong with the Cyprus Forum ? It is that people like you post things like this without ever engaging your brains. Incontinent bile.

[bill cobbett]

Says one turk to another!

You still illegally hold our country at gun point, and you moan about how the forum is run??? or that people still feel sore about the Cyprob?? Why should they feel any different, you are still there, arn't you??

Thanks for high lighting and underlining the point I was trying to make in post Sun May 08, 2011 10:31 pm in this thread so clearly B25.

For your information I am not a Turk. I am of mixed hertiage, thsoe mixed heritages being British and Cypriot. As far as the cypriot part goes my heritage is that of a turkish cypriot rather than a greek cypriot or marionite cypriot or any other kind of CYPRIOT.

Regardless, you are still a turk. Call yourself what you please, you are still a turk.

We have a saying in Cyprus, no matter how many time you wash a dog, he still smells of dog, see the analogy???

You've proved the point I made very well B25.

Regardless, you are still a twat. Call yourself what you please, you are still a twat.

We have a saying in north London, you can't polish a turd, no matter how hard you try, it is still a turd, see the analogy ???

Has this little exchange advanced things one bit ? No. Have you learnt anything ? No. Do you feel more pissed off ? Yes.
What's wrong with the Cyprus Forum ? It is that people like you post things like this without ever engaging your brains. Incontinent bile.

Might we tone down the language a bit please boys. It's not terribly pleasant for a Sunday night.

[erolz3]

I believe personal relations are better, but then again those are also limited to persons we like.
Forums are just food for thought. And some funny "kavga" And perhaps understanding the other side for those who never had a chance.
However I do believe forums DO produce change. Probably not as much as one might wish, but they DO produce.

However wasting too much time on forums may get everyone tired, nervous, incoherent, hostile etc etc. And there comes a time a person has nothing more to say...

I see it coming to me... again.

Certainly to have meet in person members from this board has been a real value, no doubt about that, not just the ones that I have come to consider good personal friends but those I still fundamentaly disagree with on many many issues, like GR and Kifeas and others.

But as you say I too feel the weariness comming on too.

[B25]

Says one turk to another!

You still illegally hold our country at gun point, and you moan about how the forum is run??? or that people still feel sore about the Cyprob?? Why should they feel any different, you are still there, arn't you??

Thanks for high lighting and underlining the point I was trying to make in post Sun May 08, 2011 10:31 pm in this thread so clearly B25.

For your information I am not a Turk. I am of mixed hertiage, thsoe mixed heritages being British and Cypriot. As far as the cypriot part goes my heritage is that of a turkish cypriot rather than a greek cypriot or marionite cypriot or any other kind of CYPRIOT.

Regardless, you are still a turk. Call yourself what you please, you are still a turk.

We have a saying in Cyprus, no matter how many time you wash a dog, he still smells of dog, see the analogy???

You've proved the point I made very well B25.

Regardless, you are still a twat. Call yourself what you please, you are still a twat.

We have a saying in north London, you can't polish a turd, no matter how hard you try, it is still a turd, see the analogy ???

Has this little exchange advanced things one bit ? No. Have you learnt anything ? No. Do you feel more pissed off ? Yes.
What's wrong with the Cyprus Forum ? It is that people like you post things like this without ever engaging your brains. Incontinent bile.

You would know a turd living in a latrine as ZoC would say.
I have learnt alot, and mainly to keep away from crap like you.
On yer bike copper. Like I said turk.