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Postby ZoC » Tue May 03, 2011 6:18 pm

seeing his eminence, our illustrious archbishop grigorios at the royal wedding on friday got me thinking about orthodox christianity...

the true name of the church is the 'one holy catholic and apostolic church'.

catholic, from the greek καθολικός, means universal. all adherents of the church profess the same beliefs regardless of race or nationality. most orthodox churches adopt a national title, generally serving to distinguish which language is followed by that particular congregation. eg russian in russia, greek in greece, cypriot in cyprus (some mistake, surely!)

the church is 'in communion' with the church of england, which broadly means that they have shared beliefs and that orthodox adherents can take holy communion in anglican churches and vice versa.

the church comprises inter alia 16 autocephalous churches, the five most senior being: 1) constantinople, 2) alexandria, 3) antioch, 4) jerusalem, 5) cyprus. thus the church of cyprus is the most senior orthodox church that still finds itself in an essentially christian country. (by way of comparison, the church of russia ranks 10th and that of greece 11th.)

what do we conclude from this?

the church is universal and transcends race, nationality and language. the religious needs of the church's adherents in the uk are in effect capable of being served by the church of england (assuming we can now mostly speak english).

cypriots in cyprus have their own autocephalous church which is older than and separate from that of greece. or am I being unorthodox?
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Postby CBBB » Tue May 03, 2011 6:31 pm

No, you are being catholic!
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Postby supporttheunderdog » Tue May 03, 2011 6:43 pm

Wot abart the Church of Rome? They calls 'emself Caflick too. I fink dat Henery 8th 'ad the rite idea telling that Bishop of Rome to sling 'is 'ook. Wot do you fink?
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Postby Paphitis » Tue May 03, 2011 7:00 pm

Yes Cypriots are more religious and their Church is autocephalous as they were the very first to indoctrinate themselves in this backward, selfish, reason sapping, and irrational fucked up false religion!

What do we conclude from this when in comparison the Church of Greece ranks 10th, and the Church of Russia ranks 11th?
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Postby ZoC » Tue May 03, 2011 10:18 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:Wot abart the Church of Rome? They calls 'emself Caflick too.


imposters. usurpers.
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Postby ZoC » Tue May 03, 2011 10:25 pm

Paphitis wrote:Yes Cypriots are more religious and their Church is autocephalous as they were the very first to indoctrinate themselves in this backward, selfish, reason sapping, and irrational fucked up false religion!


at the time it was revolutionary... but wot "our church" has done since is all the things you mention...

Paphitis wrote:What do we conclude from this when in comparison the Church of Greece ranks 10th, and the Church of Russia ranks 11th?


cypriots are trailblazers. and if we saved ourselves from the false teachings and negative influence of "our church" we could be so again.
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Postby repulsewarrior » Wed May 04, 2011 4:35 am

...it proves that Cyprus has an identity which is older than the Christian Age. and as Cypriots we should explore our past more deeply.

i don't judge a People because of their Indiviuals' beliefs, and i am glad there is a great diversity of beliefs to compare; a world without any religion risks being just as bad.
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Postby Paphitis » Wed May 04, 2011 4:54 am

ZoC wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Yes Cypriots are more religious and their Church is autocephalous as they were the very first to indoctrinate themselves in this backward, selfish, reason sapping, and irrational fucked up false religion!


at the time it was revolutionary... but wot "our church" has done since is all the things you mention...

Paphitis wrote:What do we conclude from this when in comparison the Church of Greece ranks 10th, and the Church of Russia ranks 11th?


cypriots are trailblazers. and if we saved ourselves from the false teachings and negative influence of "our church" we could be so again.


Sure, we were trailblazers due to our geography, and we were also the very first to persecute Jesus and his follower Paul other than the Jews and Romans!

We were trailblazers alright.
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Postby ZoC » Wed May 04, 2011 6:45 pm

Paphitis wrote:
ZoC wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Yes Cypriots are more religious and their Church is autocephalous as they were the very first to indoctrinate themselves in this backward, selfish, reason sapping, and irrational fucked up false religion!


at the time it was revolutionary... but wot "our church" has done since is all the things you mention...

Paphitis wrote:What do we conclude from this when in comparison the Church of Greece ranks 10th, and the Church of Russia ranks 11th?


cypriots are trailblazers. and if we saved ourselves from the false teachings and negative influence of "our church" we could be so again.


Sure, we were trailblazers due to our geography, and we were also the very first to persecute Jesus and his follower Paul other than the Jews and Romans!

wot a load of bollox. cypriots never persecuted jesus, nor paul. paul, it's said, woz scourged in cyprus, but by the roman governor, who later converted to christianity.
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Postby Paphitis » Wed May 04, 2011 7:16 pm

ZoC wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
ZoC wrote:
Paphitis wrote:Yes Cypriots are more religious and their Church is autocephalous as they were the very first to indoctrinate themselves in this backward, selfish, reason sapping, and irrational fucked up false religion!


at the time it was revolutionary... but wot "our church" has done since is all the things you mention...

Paphitis wrote:What do we conclude from this when in comparison the Church of Greece ranks 10th, and the Church of Russia ranks 11th?


cypriots are trailblazers. and if we saved ourselves from the false teachings and negative influence of "our church" we could be so again.


Sure, we were trailblazers due to our geography, and we were also the very first to persecute Jesus and his follower Paul other than the Jews and Romans!

wot a load of bollox. cypriots never persecuted jesus, nor paul. paul, it's said, woz scourged in cyprus, but by the roman governor, who later converted to christianity.


Cypriots persecuted Jesus by scourging Paul!

However, legend says that before Paul was able to make the proconsul Sergius Paulos (the first Roman official to convert to Christianity) believe the teaching of the Lord, the local pagans in Paphos lashed him to a marble pillar and “scourged him 39 times”. The said pillar is now known as “St. Paul’s Pillar”, which is at present one of the most famous tourist attractions in Paphos.


http://www.thinkcyprus.org/travel-trans ... yprus.html

Yes, we were trailblazers alright!

I agree with you....
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