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Pakistan's parliament condemns U.S. raid, threatens sanctions

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiap ... en/?hpt=T2

From the CNN Wire Staff
May 14, 2011

Islamabad, Pakistan (CNN) -- Pakistan's parliament threatened Saturday to cut off access to a facility used by NATO forces to ferry troops into Afghanistan, signaling a growing rift that began when U.S. commandos killed Osama bin Laden during a raid on a Pakistani compound.

A resolution adopted during a joint session of parliament condemned the U.S. action. It also called for a review of its working agreement with the U.S., demanded an independent investigation and ordered the immediate end of drone attacks along its border region.

Failure to end unilateral U.S. raids and drone attacks will force Pakistan to "to consider taking necessary steps, including withdrawal of (the) transit facility" used by the NATO's International Security Assistance Force, according to the resolution.

U.S. lawmakers have questioned how the world's most wanted terrorist managed to live in plain sight for years in Pakistan -- near the country's elite military academy -- without being detected.

Rift with Pakistan over commando raid appears to deepen
Its Parliament demands halt to drone strikes

New York Times / May 15, 2011

WASHINGTON — The United States and Pakistan are veering toward a deepening clash, with Pakistan’s Parliament demanding a permanent halt to all drone strikes just as the most senior US envoy since the killing of Osama bin Laden is to arrive with a stern message that the country has only months to show it is truly committed to rooting out the remnants of Al Qaeda and associated groups. The United States has increased drone strikes in Pakistan’s tribal areas in the past 10 days in an effort to exploit the uncertainty and disarray among militant ranks following bin Laden’s death on May 2.

http://www.boston.com/news/world/asia/a ... to_deepen/

Did the Pakistanis higher ups know that Bin Laden was in Pakistan.?

I believe the answer is a YES and a NO. Some knew and others did not know. Those who did not know were more than likely to be the politicians. Those who knew were more than likely to be the Pakistani military/secret service, who have been receiving Billions of US Dollars from the US since 2003, for so called helping the US to have their "war on terror". Granted, Pakistani military have lost a lot of their personal as well as the Pakistani citizens in the last 8 years to the Taliban and the Al Qaeda. I would call those Pakistani military members who got killed as being "sacrificed" by the same institution that they belonged to, the military. In order to justify receiving all that money from the USA, they had to show their involvement in the "war against terror", which meant losing service members at the same time. I wouldn't even be surprised if the military did not set these soldiers up to die, by making them walk into Taliban and Al Qaeda's traps on purpose. You can't make an omelette without breaking few eggs first.

Same reason to keep Bin Laden alive as long as possible, because as long as Bin Laden was alive and "on the run", the Pakistani military continued to cash in their "blood money" from the USA. How convenient to have Bin Laden be living in his compound with 3 wives and children for years just down the road from a military garrison. Who would have dared to come and get Bin Laden so close to the military garrison, so the military thought. Well, the answer to that question were the 25 brave US Navy Seals, that's who. Now that the game is up, the Pakistani military is talking big about should the USA dare to launch another attack on their territory to get the rest of the 9/11 criminals hiding in Pakistan. Yeah right, please don't make me laugh, and how will these corrupt military losers are going to stop the USA from coming in at will to get the next bad guys. The Pakistani military will only know once the operation has been completed, just like when the US got Bin Laden.

Lets face it, Pakistan is a very corrupt place and will do anything for money. It is no wonder they have a city named after what Pakistan is all about. I believe the city is very appropriated called, "Lahore" !

[Lit]

Go big, he told al-Qaida operatives and affiliates.

They mostly went small.

Bin Laden in Pakistan, potent but past his prime
By Calvin Woodward, Associated Press


WASHINGTON — Surrounded by the din of his multiple families within walls that were both his sanctuary and prison, Osama bin Laden pecked endlessly at a computer, issuing directives to his scattered and troubled terrorist empire. It's not clear who really listened.

The latest intelligence from the wealth of material found at bin Laden's last hideout paints a complicated picture of the fugitive, both deeply engaged in his life's violent mission and somewhat out to pasture.

Inside the Abbottabad, Pakistan, compound, he kept busy scheming plots, rehearsed and recorded propaganda and dispatched couriers to distant Internet cafes to conduct his email traffic, using computer flash drives to relay messages he would write and store from his shabby office. He dyed his gray beard black to keep up appearances for the videos.

To U.S. officials, who possess bin Laden's handwritten personal journal as well as an enormous cache of his digital documents, the still-unfolding discoveries show he was more involved in trying to plan al-Qaida's post-911 operations than they had thought possible for a man in perpetual hiding.

full article below:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/topstories ... 0288_x.htm

[Lit]

Pakistan's parliament condemns U.S. raid, threatens sanctions

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiap ... en/?hpt=T2

From the CNN Wire Staff
May 14, 2011

Islamabad, Pakistan (CNN) -- Pakistan's parliament threatened Saturday to cut off access to a facility used by NATO forces to ferry troops into Afghanistan, signaling a growing rift that began when U.S. commandos killed Osama bin Laden during a raid on a Pakistani compound.

A resolution adopted during a joint session of parliament condemned the U.S. action. It also called for a review of its working agreement with the U.S., demanded an independent investigation and ordered the immediate end of drone attacks along its border region.

Failure to end unilateral U.S. raids and drone attacks will force Pakistan to "to consider taking necessary steps, including withdrawal of (the) transit facility" used by the NATO's International Security Assistance Force, according to the resolution.

U.S. lawmakers have questioned how the world's most wanted terrorist managed to live in plain sight for years in Pakistan -- near the country's elite military academy -- without being detected.

Rift with Pakistan over commando raid appears to deepen
Its Parliament demands halt to drone strikes

New York Times / May 15, 2011

WASHINGTON — The United States and Pakistan are veering toward a deepening clash, with Pakistan’s Parliament demanding a permanent halt to all drone strikes just as the most senior US envoy since the killing of Osama bin Laden is to arrive with a stern message that the country has only months to show it is truly committed to rooting out the remnants of Al Qaeda and associated groups. The United States has increased drone strikes in Pakistan’s tribal areas in the past 10 days in an effort to exploit the uncertainty and disarray among militant ranks following bin Laden’s death on May 2.

http://www.boston.com/news/world/asia/a ... to_deepen/

Did the Pakistanis higher ups know that Bin Laden was in Pakistan.?

I believe the answer is a YES and a NO. Some knew and others did not know. Those who did not know were more than likely to be the politicians. Those who knew were more than likely to be the Pakistani military/secret service, who have been receiving Billions of US Dollars from the US since 2003, for so called helping the US to have their "war on terror". Granted, Pakistani military have lost a lot of their personal as well as the Pakistani citizens in the last 8 years to the Taliban and the Al Qaeda. I would call those Pakistani military members who got killed as being "sacrificed" by the same institution that they belonged to, the military. In order to justify receiving all that money from the USA, they had to show their involvement in the "war against terror", which meant losing service members at the same time. I wouldn't even be surprised if the military did not set these soldiers up to die, by making them walk into Taliban and Al Qaeda's traps on purpose. You can't make an omelette without breaking few eggs first.

Same reason to keep Bin Laden alive as long as possible, because as long as Bin Laden was alive and "on the run", the Pakistani military continued to cash in their "blood money" from the USA. How convenient to have Bin Laden be living in his compound with 3 wives and children for years just down the road from a military garrison. Who would have dared to come and get Bin Laden so close to the military garrison, so the military thought. Well, the answer to that question were the 25 brave US Navy Seals, that's who. Now that the game is up, the Pakistani military is talking big about should the USA dare to launch another attack on their territory to get the rest of the 9/11 criminals hiding in Pakistan. Yeah right, please don't make me laugh, and how will these corrupt military losers are going to stop the USA from coming in at will to get the next bad guys. The Pakistani military will only know once the operation has been completed, just like when the US got Bin Laden.

Lets face it, Pakistan is a very corrupt place and will do anything for money. It is no wonder they have a city named after what Pakistan is all about. I believe the city is very appropriated called, "Lahore" !

I was thinking the same, Kiks. I also believe the US administration had no intention on capturing Osama alive. Since Obama became President...i believe no Al QA member was ever captured. I believe this is because he prefers to eliminate the danger, preferably with predator drones, than deal with the soap box orators and legal limbo issues that drag on for years for many of the Guantanamo detainees.

[Kikapu]

Pakistan's parliament condemns U.S. raid, threatens sanctions

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiap ... en/?hpt=T2

From the CNN Wire Staff
May 14, 2011

Islamabad, Pakistan (CNN) -- Pakistan's parliament threatened Saturday to cut off access to a facility used by NATO forces to ferry troops into Afghanistan, signaling a growing rift that began when U.S. commandos killed Osama bin Laden during a raid on a Pakistani compound.

A resolution adopted during a joint session of parliament condemned the U.S. action. It also called for a review of its working agreement with the U.S., demanded an independent investigation and ordered the immediate end of drone attacks along its border region.

Failure to end unilateral U.S. raids and drone attacks will force Pakistan to "to consider taking necessary steps, including withdrawal of (the) transit facility" used by the NATO's International Security Assistance Force, according to the resolution.

U.S. lawmakers have questioned how the world's most wanted terrorist managed to live in plain sight for years in Pakistan -- near the country's elite military academy -- without being detected.

Rift with Pakistan over commando raid appears to deepen
Its Parliament demands halt to drone strikes

New York Times / May 15, 2011

WASHINGTON — The United States and Pakistan are veering toward a deepening clash, with Pakistan’s Parliament demanding a permanent halt to all drone strikes just as the most senior US envoy since the killing of Osama bin Laden is to arrive with a stern message that the country has only months to show it is truly committed to rooting out the remnants of Al Qaeda and associated groups. The United States has increased drone strikes in Pakistan’s tribal areas in the past 10 days in an effort to exploit the uncertainty and disarray among militant ranks following bin Laden’s death on May 2.

http://www.boston.com/news/world/asia/a ... to_deepen/

Did the Pakistanis higher ups know that Bin Laden was in Pakistan.?

I believe the answer is a YES and a NO. Some knew and others did not know. Those who did not know were more than likely to be the politicians. Those who knew were more than likely to be the Pakistani military/secret service, who have been receiving Billions of US Dollars from the US since 2003, for so called helping the US to have their "war on terror". Granted, Pakistani military have lost a lot of their personal as well as the Pakistani citizens in the last 8 years to the Taliban and the Al Qaeda. I would call those Pakistani military members who got killed as being "sacrificed" by the same institution that they belonged to, the military. In order to justify receiving all that money from the USA, they had to show their involvement in the "war against terror", which meant losing service members at the same time. I wouldn't even be surprised if the military did not set these soldiers up to die, by making them walk into Taliban and Al Qaeda's traps on purpose. You can't make an omelette without breaking few eggs first.

Same reason to keep Bin Laden alive as long as possible, because as long as Bin Laden was alive and "on the run", the Pakistani military continued to cash in their "blood money" from the USA. How convenient to have Bin Laden be living in his compound with 3 wives and children for years just down the road from a military garrison. Who would have dared to come and get Bin Laden so close to the military garrison, so the military thought. Well, the answer to that question were the 25 brave US Navy Seals, that's who. Now that the game is up, the Pakistani military is talking big about should the USA dare to launch another attack on their territory to get the rest of the 9/11 criminals hiding in Pakistan. Yeah right, please don't make me laugh, and how will these corrupt military losers are going to stop the USA from coming in at will to get the next bad guys. The Pakistani military will only know once the operation has been completed, just like when the US got Bin Laden.

Lets face it, Pakistan is a very corrupt place and will do anything for money. It is no wonder they have a city named after what Pakistan is all about. I believe the city is very appropriated called, "Lahore" !

I was thinking the same, Kiks. I also believe the US administration had no intention on capturing Osama alive. Since Obama became President...i believe no Al QA member was ever captured. I believe this is because he prefers to eliminate the danger, preferably with predator drones, than deal with the soap box orators and legal limbo issues that drag on for years for many of the Guantanamo detainees.

You are 100% on the money, Lit.

But here is the bigger mesage by the USA to ALL the Al Queda operatives and their suppporters as to why the Navy Seals took out Bin Ladin on the spot. The message was,

"we no longer take any of you MF's as prisoners". You MF's will be "Dead on Arrival", and the proof to our word is, that is what we did to your MF terrorist leader and that you are ALL on fcuking borrowed time unless you clean up your shits and get the fcuk away from us, specially now that we have ALL your MF's information that was kept at the Bin Laden's compound."

If I was a Al Queda operative, I would be afraid to go to sleep too with that kind of a message out there by the USA.

[Mikiko]

But what I dont understand is If he was captured alive he would reveal information about AL Qaeeda . Is the purpose to eliminate AL Qaeda or Bin Laden ?

US qot panic when they entered his place and they shoot him as to eliminate any chance of him escaping thats the truth. But they dont say this in public of course. He did not hold any gun also as to be a threat to them.

[Kikapu]

But what I dont understand is If he was captured alive he would reveal information about AL Qaeeda . Is the purpose to eliminate AL Qaeda or Bin Laden ?

US qot panic when they entered his place and they shoot him as to eliminate any chance of him escaping thats the truth. But they dont say this in public of course. He did not hold any gun also as to be a threat to them.

This is the other part of the message by the US to the Al Qaeda operatives, that we are not taking any prisoners, whether you MF's are holding a gun or not. You will all become "road kill".!

For all the Navy Seals knew, Bin Laden could have been wearing a " suicide bomb vest" under his clothes, so they put a bullet in his head before they asked any questions.

If he was naked, perhaps they thought he had a dynamite stick between his legs. It was dark after-all.

[Lit]

Pakistan's bin Laden probe falters before it even starts
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By SAEED SHAH
McClatchy Newspapers
Published: Thursday, Jun. 2, 2011 - 1:00 am


ISLAMABAD -- A month after U.S. Navy SEALs shot and killed Osama bin Laden, Pakistan's investigation into how the al-Qaida leader hid out here undetected for at least five years has hit major stumbling blocks even before it has begun, leaving politicians and analysts to wonder whether Pakistan will ever get to the bottom of the affair.

A five-member commission was named Tuesday to oversee the probe, nearly a month after U.S. Navy SEALs shot and killed bin Laden on May 2 in the northern Pakistani town of Abbottabad. But one of the members declined to serve and the others have said they were never asked if they were willing to undertake what's likely to be a controversial assignment.

Read more: http://www.sacbee.com/2011/06/02/367308 ... z1OAOBDCj6

[Lit]

Top Al Qaeda-linked militant reportedly killed by drone attack in Pakistan

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... 0479.story

Ilyas Kashmiri, an Al Qaeda-linked operative blamed for several high-profile attacks in Pakistan and India, was killed in South Waziristan, say news reports and a statement by his militant organization. Analysts had labeled Kashmiri a possible Osama bin Laden successor.

By Mark Magnier, Los Angeles Times

June 4, 2011, 10:09 a.m.
Reporting from Islamabad, Pakistan—
An overnight attack by an unmanned aircraft killed Ilyas Kashmiri, an Al Qaeda-linked operative blamed for several high-profile attacks in Pakistan and India, local news reports and a statement by his banned militant organization said Saturday.

If borne out, this would be the second major U.S. anti-terrorism coup in quick succession following the killing of Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden early last month by Navy SEALs. Analysts had identified Kashmiri as a possible Bin Laden successor.

[Lit]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-13653324

[Lit]

Pakistan nabs CIA informants in bin Laden raid

Five Pakistani informants have been arrested for their role in helping the CIA leading up to the raid that killed Osama bin Laden. Among those reportedly arrested: a Pakistani army major. (June 15) (The Associated Press)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/pak ... video.html