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[Viewpoint]

I didn't have no choice in 1974,and all others in my generation didn't have a choice either.As for the new generation/s,they only read/hear what WE tell them.

Turkish(Turkey) mentality is to carry on with the blood/relegion .........KAN DAVASI!


Glad and proud to be Cypriot.

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How old are you?

old enough...........you?

Then how comes your generation had no choice?

[yorgozlu]

I didn't have no choice in 1974,and all others in my generation didn't have a choice either.As for the new generation/s,they only read/hear what WE tell them.

Turkish(Turkey) mentality is to carry on with the blood/relegion .........KAN DAVASI!


Glad and proud to be Cypriot.

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How old are you?

It might have something to do with the fact that I was only 10 at the time.

old enough...........you?

Then how comes your generation had no choice?

It might have something to do with the fact that I was only 10 at the time.

[Viewpoint]

So your father and people had a say how can even make the statement above....you have a say now but everyone might not agree with you.

[quattro]

So your father and people had a say how can even make the statement above....you have a say now but everyone might not agree with you.

The main idea here and now VP is that is time now to stop paying for our ''fathers'' sins and work it out ours selfs .going in circles and blaming each other for what is happened in the past is not the way forward. We are first of all more educated most of us traveling around the world with no problems at all with whom we talk eat making friends with all nationality's and religions why we cannot do the same thing in OUR OWN country .

[Viewpoint]

Do you want to live as a minority with Turks as the majority?

[quattro]

Do you want to live as a minority with Turks as the majority?

with Tcs you mean with Cypiots I am saying .
With all my rights protected why not VP ?
can you do the same?

[Viewpoint]

Do you want to live as a minority with Turks as the majority?

with Tcs you mean with Cypiots I am saying .
With all my rights protected why not VP ?
can you do the same?

Not initially as I do not trust you, thats why a BBF with political equality will give me the confidence to take a step forward.

[wyoming cowboy]

Pyrpolizer we have had our differences in the past and we do not have to agree on anything thats whats makes the reality invaluable....I think you are clever enough to understand.

Your so called "trnc" is nothing but an illegal state based on theft of homes, lands, and propertries of GCs. The area on which it lies belongs by 90%+ to GCs. It is a product of invasion occupation and ethnic cleansing 37% of the area of the Republic of Cyprus. You can’t have a state based on someone elses lands and properties to start with.

Examples; USA, Australia Taiwan and Israel.

Nobody will ever recognise it, because recognising it means accepting it as a perfectly legal and equal entity.By doing that, it is like blowing up the foundations of law and justice of the country that would do so. The best any country can do for the so called "trnc reality", is just turn a blind eye as long as they are not affected. In other words as long as the "trnc reality" stews in it’s own juice everything is fine. By the minute it tries to export it’s illegalities to the outside world like for example sell stolen properties to foreigners there waits the foreign justice and the affected GCs to strike. The "trnc reality" will always be like a snake hit on the head and hiding back to it’s hole.

The TRNC reality is the prize anything else is a bonus, what you have to understand yet you avoid like the plague is that recognition is your biggest nightmare and with a constantly changing world your nightmare may just one day become reality, for now the reality of the TRNC is more than enough as the alternative an existence with GCs in command and us as a minority is unthinkable, we would rather make it official and unite with Turkey.

Not only the so called "trnc reality" is an illegal form by all international standards and by it’s own consitution as such, it is also a puppet administration to Turkey, heavily militarised by Turkey, and been used for constant and heavy collonisation. This adds another huge illegality to the already existing one.The "trnc reality" today houses less than half the original TCs and their decendents, whereas the settlers from Turkey are double to tripple as many. By everyones admission it is the settlers who gave you Eroglu as president, whereas the majority of real TCs did not vote for him…

This reality is much preferred to your the reality you have in your head for TCs, when will you and people like you understand that what you see as the extinction of TCs is in fact our survival, the alternative again is totally unacceptable.

It is very unfortunate that the life of the real TCs has been so much influenced by this very existence of the "trnc reality" to the point that plain innocent TC people cannot advance economically, got isolated from the whole world, cannot travel easily, cannot even receive mail from abroad unless it goes through Turkey…. It is even more unfortunate that they are unable to understand that the source of their problem is this "trnc reality" and whatever goes with it. They were even brainwashed to beleive their problem are the GCs themselves half of which are refugees and suffered the most from this ethnic cleansing and deprivation of their homes and lands…

Better a pauper in your own shack than a servant in a palace, the TRNC hower much you try to run it into the ground is our country and will not just go away because you want it to 37 years of banging your heads against a wall and you still dont understand that unless that we will only ever consider uniting under a BBF with political equality of the 2 states, you are doomed to getting migraines.

The very existence of the illegal "trnc reality" is what causes ALL your problems and you know it damn well. Hiding behind stupid slogans invented by Denktash like "safe heaven" may still sell to some stupid people, and you are very clever to know that damn well VP. In fact these are all the weapons you use time and time again in this forum. Good luck.

Without the TRNC reality we would be just what we are when we visit the south foreigners, here we feel we belong and here we will stay unless you make us an offer that guarantees we belong in a unified Cyprus.

I am afraid this "trnc reality" is the one that will eventually wipe off all the real TCs from Cyprus. So it will end up housing all trashy Anatolian settlers.That would be bad for the TCs who in the end would just lose their country. It will be bad for the GCs too, but bear in mind that the GCs will have other options to chose when that time comes.

Better the "Anatolians" than the GCs...why is that so hard to understand? Have you heard of the population growth in the TRNC reality? all new generation TCs.

In my opinion the best you can do before is too late is just abolish this so called "trnc reality" and claim your rights in the Republic of Cyprus. And it will be too late if the number of the real TCs that are in Cyprus falls below 60K (from the currently 80K figure).

This is only possible if whats on offer is better than the reality we have today and so far what you have offers being the "RoC" which we can have tomorrow by moving south is a non starter as within a very short period of time you GCs cannot be trusted you would attempt with the help of the EU Akritas 2.

you are comparing apples with peanuts, first of all the world has changed dramatically since the colonization of the usa and australia, back in the 1500's.....As for Israel, Israel does have a mandate from the UN to exist and be created............................your pseudo stolen lands state has nothing and will have nothing in the future, because when your people signed the zurich agreement they created the mandate for the RoC to exist there is nothing since from the UN agreed by both sides that supercedes the creation of the RoC.

[repulsewarrior]

Do you want to live as a minority with Turks as the majority?

with Tcs you mean with Cypiots I am saying .
With all my rights protected why not VP ?
can you do the same?

Not initially as I do not trust you, thats why a BBF with political equality will give me the confidence to take a step forward.

BBF?

...really, read my manifesto.

[yorgozlu]

Do you want to live as a minority with Turks as the majority?

We DO live as a minority with Turks as the majority.Apearently,it is because they saved us and WE owe it to them!