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[Viewpoint]

Thats the sell out small or large state the GCs being the larger population can if they want easily take the one seat they need to yet again push us to one side. Do you understand that this is a very important issue for us and one we fear the most why not address it to guarantee both sides participation is maintained and cannot be watered down or removed?

So
a)You do not accept to reduce your space so as to to have 99-100% TC population that will guarantee your 5 seats.
b)You want a much bigger chunk and a written guarantee from GCs that they will never elect one to erode your 5 representation or else quotas, or else no political rights to GCs residing in "your" state, or else violation of EU pronciples
c) You want a written guarantee that the Senators will never be bribed.

Are these your objections to Kiks Plan or is there anything else?

What difference does it make whether we reduce or not, the GCs have the upper hand with numbers when it comes to population and if they want to take the 1 seat they need from the TC state they can do this very easily.

There has to be a guaranteed balance in the upper house to ensure we do not get pushed to one side.

a)it makes a difference and both Kikapu and me explained you tens of times. Why are you avoiding the issue?
b)Why do you avoid telling us exactly what your warantee implies
c)You want a written warantee that the senators will not be bribed as well?

Thats dumb not dump.

As i mentioned before the guarantee is to ensure that Kikapus plan is not manipulated so as to take the 1 seat necessary from the north state, which can easily be done by GCs moving into the the TC by right, no matter what size the TC state is.

Bribery is a risk all over the world we can only elect who we trust.

[Pyrpolizer]

Thats the sell out small or large state the GCs being the larger population can if they want easily take the one seat they need to yet again push us to one side. Do you understand that this is a very important issue for us and one we fear the most why not address it to guarantee both sides participation is maintained and cannot be watered down or removed?

So
a)You do not accept to reduce your space so as to to have 99-100% TC population that will guarantee your 5 seats.
b)You want a much bigger chunk and a written guarantee from GCs that they will never elect one to erode your 5 representation or else quotas, or else no political rights to GCs residing in "your" state, or else violation of EU pronciples
c) You want a written guarantee that the Senators will never be bribed.

Are these your objections to Kiks Plan or is there anything else?

What difference does it make whether we reduce or not, the GCs have the upper hand with numbers when it comes to population and if they want to take the 1 seat they need from the TC state they can do this very easily.

There has to be a guaranteed balance in the upper house to ensure we do not get pushed to one side.

a)it makes a difference and both Kikapu and me explained you tens of times. Why are you avoiding the issue?
b)Why do you avoid telling us exactly what your warantee implies
c)You want a written warantee that the senators will not be bribed as well?

Thats dumb not dump.

As i mentioned before the guarantee is to ensure that Kikapus plan is not manipulated so as to take the 1 seat necessary from the north state, which can easily be done by GCs moving into the the TC by right, no matter what size the TC state is.

Bribery is a risk all over the world we can only elect who we trust.

So will you ever give us the wording of your warantee? Or you want me to write it for you?

[Viewpoint]

You want me to write out a guarantee warranty?

This will be in the constitution and not allow either side to tilt the balance of power either way.

[quattro]

Thats the sell out small or large state the GCs being the larger population can if they want easily take the one seat they need to yet again push us to one side. Do you understand that this is a very important issue for us and one we fear the most why not address it to guarantee both sides participation is maintained and cannot be watered down or removed?

So
a)You do not accept to reduce your space so as to to have 99-100% TC population that will guarantee your 5 seats.
b)You want a much bigger chunk and a written guarantee from GCs that they will never elect one to erode your 5 representation or else quotas, or else no political rights to GCs residing in "your" state, or else violation of EU pronciples
c) You want a written guarantee that the Senators will never be bribed.

Are these your objections to Kiks Plan or is there anything else?

What difference does it make whether we reduce or not, the GCs have the upper hand with numbers when it comes to population and if they want to take the 1 seat they need from the TC state they can do this very easily.

There has to be a guaranteed balance in the upper house to ensure we do not get pushed to one side.

a)it makes a difference and both Kikapu and me explained you tens of times. Why are you avoiding the issue?
b)Why do you avoid telling us exactly what your warantee implies
c)You want a written warantee that the senators will not be bribed as well?

Thats dumb not dump.

As i mentioned before the guarantee is to ensure that Kikapus plan is not manipulated so as to take the 1 seat necessary from the north state, which can easily be done by GCs moving into the the TC by right, no matter what size the TC state is.

Bribery is a risk all over the world we can only elect who we trust.

So will you ever give us the wording of your warantee? Or you want me to write it for you?

Stou koufou tin porta os thelis vronta

[denizaksulu]

Thats the sell out small or large state the GCs being the larger population can if they want easily take the one seat they need to yet again push us to one side. Do you understand that this is a very important issue for us and one we fear the most why not address it to guarantee both sides participation is maintained and cannot be watered down or removed?

So
a)You do not accept to reduce your space so as to to have 99-100% TC population that will guarantee your 5 seats.
b)You want a much bigger chunk and a written guarantee from GCs that they will never elect one to erode your 5 representation or else quotas, or else no political rights to GCs residing in "your" state, or else violation of EU pronciples
c) You want a written guarantee that the Senators will never be bribed.

Are these your objections to Kiks Plan or is there anything else?

What difference does it make whether we reduce or not, the GCs have the upper hand with numbers when it comes to population and if they want to take the 1 seat they need from the TC state they can do this very easily.

There has to be a guaranteed balance in the upper house to ensure we do not get pushed to one side.

a)it makes a difference and both Kikapu and me explained you tens of times. Why are you avoiding the issue?
b)Why do you avoid telling us exactly what your warantee implies
c)You want a written warantee that the senators will not be bribed as well?

Thats dumb not dump.

As i mentioned before the guarantee is to ensure that Kikapus plan is not manipulated so as to take the 1 seat necessary from the north state, which can easily be done by GCs moving into the the TC by right, no matter what size the TC state is.

Bribery is a risk all over the world we can only elect who we trust.

So will you ever give us the wording of your warantee? Or you want me to write it for you?

Stou koufou tin porta os thelis vronta

Türkçe yazsana olan............

[insan]

Our incompetent, self interested politicians and intelligentsia r not even aware of the existence of this forum...

not true... i've been aware of u for quite some time now.

if even we discover the perfect solution and all agree upon it; woouldn't change the agenda of those incompetent politicians and intelligentsia...

don't lump me in with the incompetent politicos, twerp.

Thanks for sharing ur thoughts with us, gowk... U must be one of the best example of intelligentsia... as a foreigner?

[ZoC]

U must be one of the best example of intelligentsia...

ah shucks... thanx.

[quattro]

Thats the sell out small or large state the GCs being the larger population can if they want easily take the one seat they need to yet again push us to one side. Do you understand that this is a very important issue for us and one we fear the most why not address it to guarantee both sides participation is maintained and cannot be watered down or removed?

So
a)You do not accept to reduce your space so as to to have 99-100% TC population that will guarantee your 5 seats.
b)You want a much bigger chunk and a written guarantee from GCs that they will never elect one to erode your 5 representation or else quotas, or else no political rights to GCs residing in "your" state, or else violation of EU pronciples
c) You want a written guarantee that the Senators will never be bribed.

Are these your objections to Kiks Plan or is there anything else?

What difference does it make whether we reduce or not, the GCs have the upper hand with numbers when it comes to population and if they want to take the 1 seat they need from the TC state they can do this very easily.

There has to be a guaranteed balance in the upper house to ensure we do not get pushed to one side.

a)it makes a difference and both Kikapu and me explained you tens of times. Why are you avoiding the issue?
b)Why do you avoid telling us exactly what your warantee implies
c)You want a written warantee that the senators will not be bribed as well?

Thats dumb not dump.

As i mentioned before the guarantee is to ensure that Kikapus plan is not manipulated so as to take the 1 seat necessary from the north state, which can easily be done by GCs moving into the the TC by right, no matter what size the TC state is.

Bribery is a risk all over the world we can only elect who we trust.

So will you ever give us the wording of your warantee? Or you want me to write it for you?

Stou koufou tin porta os thelis vronta

Türkçe yazsana olan............

yazsana or Yunanca

[denizaksulu]

[quote="insan"][quote="ZoC"][quote="insan"]
Our incompetent, self interested politicians and [b]intelligentsia[/b] r not even aware of the existence of this forum...[/quote]

not true... i've been aware of u for quite some time now.

[quote="insan"]
if even we discover the perfect solution and all agree upon it; woouldn't change the agenda of those incompetent politicians and intelligentsia... [/quote]

don't lump me in with the incompetent politicos, twerp.[/quote]

Thanks for sharing ur thoughts with us, gowk... U must be one of the best example of intelligentsia... as a foreigner?[/quote]

Eerrr!........big mistake........Insan.

[Pyrpolizer]

Thats the sell out small or large state the GCs being the larger population can if they want easily take the one seat they need to yet again push us to one side. Do you understand that this is a very important issue for us and one we fear the most why not address it to guarantee both sides participation is maintained and cannot be watered down or removed?

So
a)You do not accept to reduce your space so as to to have 99-100% TC population that will guarantee your 5 seats.
b)You want a much bigger chunk and a written guarantee from GCs that they will never elect one to erode your 5 representation or else quotas, or else no political rights to GCs residing in "your" state, or else violation of EU pronciples
c) You want a written guarantee that the Senators will never be bribed.

Are these your objections to Kiks Plan or is there anything else?

What difference does it make whether we reduce or not, the GCs have the upper hand with numbers when it comes to population and if they want to take the 1 seat they need from the TC state they can do this very easily.

There has to be a guaranteed balance in the upper house to ensure we do not get pushed to one side.

a)it makes a difference and both Kikapu and me explained you tens of times. Why are you avoiding the issue?
b)Why do you avoid telling us exactly what your warantee implies
c)You want a written warantee that the senators will not be bribed as well?

Thats dumb not dump.

As i mentioned before the guarantee is to ensure that Kikapus plan is not manipulated so as to take the 1 seat necessary from the north state, which can easily be done by GCs moving into the the TC by right, no matter what size the TC state is.

Bribery is a risk all over the world we can only elect who we trust.

So will you ever give us the wording of your warantee? Or you want me to write it for you?

Stou koufou tin porta os thelis vronta

Hehehe, this is the second time VP does this to me.
I think it's time for me to press my CF switch to OFF. Too boring "knocking on a deaf mans door"

NB.Deniz the "in quotes" above is your answer olan