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[bill cobbett]

Was he banned??

Yes he was banned, but he's still out there, somewhere lost in cyberspace:

http://lurucadiyfred.wordpress.com/

Raouthosparos.

Do you mean ghaourosporos?

erm...eee... err... in Charliespeak gh is spelt r . ... and o is spelt with an a

[kurupetos]

Was he banned??

Yes he was banned, but he's still out there, somewhere lost in cyberspace:

http://lurucadiyfred.wordpress.com/

Raouthosparos.

Do you mean ghaourosporos?

erm...eee... err... in Charliespeak gh is spelt r . ... and o is spelt with an a

You're very polite. Unfortunately I had to grow up in some dodgy Nicosian suburbs.

[bill cobbett]

Was he banned??

Yes he was banned, but he's still out there, somewhere lost in cyberspace:

http://lurucadiyfred.wordpress.com/

Raouthosparos.

Do you mean ghaourosporos?

erm...eee... err... in Charliespeak gh is spelt r . ... and o is spelt with an a

You're very polite. Unfortunately I had to grow up in some dodgy Nicosian suburbs.

Yes def am, and ...oh you lucky b******d..., had the misfortune to grow up in Sourf London (just)... but pleased to say spent the first three or four days of life in North London (just).

[denizaksulu]

Was he banned??

Yes he was banned, but he's still out there, somewhere lost in cyberspace:

http://lurucadiyfred.wordpress.com/

Raouthosparos.

Do you mean ghaourosporos?

Is that how you talk about your mates?

[bill cobbett]

Was he banned??

Yes he was banned, but he's still out there, somewhere lost in cyberspace:

http://lurucadiyfred.wordpress.com/

Raouthosparos.

Do you mean ghaourosporos?

Is that how you talk about your mates?

Have been betrayed and generally let down D... was invited to a klethtiko dinner and now am being told will be lucky to be given the scraps... a serious dereliction of hostship by CY standards.

[kurupetos]

Was he banned??

Yes he was banned, but he's still out there, somewhere lost in cyberspace:

http://lurucadiyfred.wordpress.com/

Raouthosparos.

Do you mean ghaourosporos?

Is that how you talk about your mates?

[insan]

insan ..... I think the politicians and intelligentsia are very aware of this forum. That is why I feel it is important for us to be discussing possible solutions so that hopefully they can take something from here and apply it to their policies.

Like you am just happy to share my two bob worth and see my Country freed from an unwanted invador and her troops.

I don't think so... but i hope so... even there hasn't been your "invador" and her troops in Cyprus, there would have been the "invador" TC troops "occupying" "your" country as long as "your" community insisted on a majoritarian democracy... Would it be fair for 80% Cypriots to force 20% of Cypriots to accept majoritarian democracy instead of giving a chance to a fairer political stucture called consociational democracy?

Had the case been 50/50 or 45/55(on population basis) your "invador" and her troops would have been pure TCs... Had it been the case what would u wish for Turcophone Cypriots?

Believe it or not, those that don't want Turkey in Cyprus among Turcophone Cypriots is 1/1000 of all TC population... Most of them are socialist who r almost against everything capitalist...

I too don't want some Turks here in Cyprus but not because they r Turks or "invadors"... I don't want the bad apples...

Under the current ongoing circumstances Grekophone Cypriots have around 15.000 NG and some 60.000 reservists...

In the Incompetent vs incompetent situation, TCs should find a way to stop their Grecophone brothers using brute force to achieve a majoritarian regime in Cyprus... and they forunded the way by getting reinforcements from Turkey...

I'm not happy with this situation... I can understand your pain of being away from your ancestral lands and properties... not being allowed to return and enjoy full freedom in your country...

... but when u examine the events, u can easily see the chain reaction of cause and effect relation...

Now u try walking in my shoes...

[denizaksulu]

Was he banned??

Yes he was banned, but he's still out there, somewhere lost in cyberspace:

http://lurucadiyfred.wordpress.com/

Raouthosparos.

Do you mean ghaourosporos?

Is that how you talk about your mates?

Have been betrayed and generally let down D... was invited to a klethtiko dinner and now am being told will be lucky to be given the scraps... a serious dereliction of hostship by CY standards.

Who was responsible for this very un-Cypriot like behaviour?

[Viewpoint]

Viewpoint,
instead of rejecting all proposals presented to you, and accusing people that they try to "sell you" why don’t you make your own solution proposal for all of us to see?
You could of even take Kikapus proposal which by your own admition you initially liked, correct the points you want and present it to us.

At the moment you are just acting as if nothing else than 2 completely separate states would ever satisfy you.

We have done this before but Kikapu does not accept guaranteed equal representation.

Do you know what representation is VP?
It's representation of INTERESTS. Of MONEY.

How about giving you guaranteed equal representation and your 20% population pays guaranteed equal taxes to the FedGovernment like the other 80% of the population.

We are not talking expenditure but the right to say no in the upper house without having this right diluted or taken away.

Helooooooooo. That WAS GUARANTEED in kikapu's plan.
Your objections were for the lower house where you also wanted 50-50 representation

Hello back...

the lower house is not the problem here, its the upper house where we need to guarantee a balance and not leave the door wide open to manipulation therefore allowing a swing of just one seat that would have power to the GCs on a plate...this is the sell our clause in Kikapus plan.

Yes sorry these were in fact your objections.
However Kikapu already gave you the answer from the very beginning.You have to limit the size of the TC consituent state so that it houses a vast majority of TCs, so a GC living in the north could never have a chance to make it to the senate.
In this way you guarantee YOURSELF. You don't get a quarantee by asking quotas that are against EU principles...

Secondly for important issues i am certain the fight will be to buy some senates, so in actual practice nobody can guarantee anything to anyone. It is just dreams.

Thats the sell out small or large state the GCs being the larger population can if they want easily take the one seat they need to yet again push us to one side. Do you understand that this is a very important issue for us and one we fear the most why not address it to guarantee both sides participation is maintained and cannot be watered down or removed?

[bill cobbett]

Was he banned??

Yes he was banned, but he's still out there, somewhere lost in cyberspace:

http://lurucadiyfred.wordpress.com/

Raouthosparos.

Do you mean ghaourosporos?

Is that how you talk about your mates?

Have been betrayed and generally let down D... was invited to a klethtiko dinner and now am being told will be lucky to be given the scraps... a serious dereliction of hostship by CY standards.

Who was responsible for this very un-Cypriot like behaviour?

Thanks for your understanding D... but regretfully can't give the name of the culprit cos it's unmentionable in our polite society.