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Was 9/11 an inside job?

Yes
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No
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Total votes : 45

Postby Paphitis » Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:42 pm

Bananiot wrote:Welcome aboard paphitis! Now you know how Cyprus was lost, but blaming the others is a national sport in Cyprus. We see it in schools too. Pupils and their parents never put the blame on themselves for an examination failure. It is always the bad teacher, or being sick the night before the exam, or going to the funeral of a beloved granny etc, etc.

The dreaded Angloamericans saved our butt two times before 1974 (1964 and 1967) but when Turkey finally landed in Cyprus it was the Angloamericans that paved the way. I remember some silly stories then, about British pilots in the cockpits of Turkish planes and Turkish soldiers high on drugs, legs tied in their landing ship to make sure they would not run away.

The fact that 16 plonkers of this forum think that the 9/11 disaster was deliberately self afflicted does say a lot about our society which feeds and breaths on conspiracy theories that overshadow and anull are stupid mistakes.


Bananiot,

I have always believed that we are primarily responsible for our present situation. I have only ever insisted that the US and GB played a role because we have a strategically important island and the fact that Makarios and the Left formed close friendships with the Eastern Block along with our policy of non alignment. We were a victim of the Cold War if you like. We should have seen it coming. So, we are responsible, but the US, GB and NATO, through Greece and Turkey played their role in our demise.

In my opinion, this policy should have been abandoned shortly after 1960, and Cyprus should have tried to join NATO without playing the power politics to go with it.
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:27 pm

CBBB wrote:
Paphitis wrote:This poll suggests that 51% of Cypriots are total fuckwits!

How fucked up can you be to believe that 9/11 was an inside job. Please tell me that most Cypriots don't believe this nonsense! :shock:

So are we Cypriots really that fucked in the head?


Dear Paphitis,

You have just proved that you are not a real Cypriot! Cypriots believe that everything that happens is more complicated than it actually is, and that it is normally the result of the British doing something after being given orders by the Americans!

Once you learn this lesson, then you can call yourself a Cypriot.


So it seems! :lol:

I suppose most Cypriots also believe that Elvis is still alive... :lol:
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Postby ZoC » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:31 pm

Paphitis wrote:
CBBB wrote:
Paphitis wrote:This poll suggests that 51% of Cypriots are total fuckwits!

How fucked up can you be to believe that 9/11 was an inside job. Please tell me that most Cypriots don't believe this nonsense! :shock:

So are we Cypriots really that fucked in the head?


Dear Paphitis,

You have just proved that you are not a real Cypriot! Cypriots believe that everything that happens is more complicated than it actually is, and that it is normally the result of the British doing something after being given orders by the Americans!

Once you learn this lesson, then you can call yourself a Cypriot.


So it seems! :lol:

I suppose most Cypriots also believe that Elvis is still alive... :lol:


and that he's greek...
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:33 pm

ZoC wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
CBBB wrote:
Paphitis wrote:This poll suggests that 51% of Cypriots are total fuckwits!

How fucked up can you be to believe that 9/11 was an inside job. Please tell me that most Cypriots don't believe this nonsense! :shock:

So are we Cypriots really that fucked in the head?


Dear Paphitis,

You have just proved that you are not a real Cypriot! Cypriots believe that everything that happens is more complicated than it actually is, and that it is normally the result of the British doing something after being given orders by the Americans!

Once you learn this lesson, then you can call yourself a Cypriot.


So it seems! :lol:

I suppose most Cypriots also believe that Elvis is still alive... :lol:


and that he's greek...


Or Turkish..... :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Apr 27, 2011 1:37 pm

Paphitis wrote:
ZoC wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
CBBB wrote:
Paphitis wrote:This poll suggests that 51% of Cypriots are total fuckwits!

How fucked up can you be to believe that 9/11 was an inside job. Please tell me that most Cypriots don't believe this nonsense! :shock:

So are we Cypriots really that fucked in the head?


Dear Paphitis,

You have just proved that you are not a real Cypriot! Cypriots believe that everything that happens is more complicated than it actually is, and that it is normally the result of the British doing something after being given orders by the Americans!

Once you learn this lesson, then you can call yourself a Cypriot.


So it seems! :lol:

I suppose most Cypriots also believe that Elvis is still alive... :lol:


and that he's greek...


Or Turkish..... :lol:



ahaaa!!..................now that you mentioned it.............shall I carry on? :lol:
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Postby CBBB » Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:02 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
ZoC wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
CBBB wrote:
Paphitis wrote:This poll suggests that 51% of Cypriots are total fuckwits!

How fucked up can you be to believe that 9/11 was an inside job. Please tell me that most Cypriots don't believe this nonsense! :shock:

So are we Cypriots really that fucked in the head?


Dear Paphitis,

You have just proved that you are not a real Cypriot! Cypriots believe that everything that happens is more complicated than it actually is, and that it is normally the result of the British doing something after being given orders by the Americans!

Once you learn this lesson, then you can call yourself a Cypriot.


So it seems! :lol:

I suppose most Cypriots also believe that Elvis is still alive... :lol:


and that he's greek...


Or Turkish..... :lol:



ahaaa!!..................now that you mentioned it.............shall I carry on? :lol:


NO! That was Freddie Mercury (or perhaps ir was YFred).
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9-11

Postby Robin Hood » Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:13 pm

Daniella,

You never said a truer word!

The fact that 16 plonkers of this forum think that the 9/11 disaster was deliberately self afflicted does say a lot about our society which feeds and breaths on conspiracy theories that overshadow and anull are stupid mistakes.


The only plonkers on this thread are those that come out with such stupid uneducated comments!

Take just one incident on 9-11, that being the impact on the Pentagon by a standard commercial airliner being flown by a pilot with no experience on type and so poor a private pilot that he was refused rental on a Cessna 172 because of his incompetence. If you believe the official story then lets look at a few relevant facts, no conspiracy just a few ‘mistakes’ which seem to conflict with the story given at the time:

• From the flight data recorder, the aircraft was flying at a speed 110Knts above Vne (Velocity never exceed) speed, that is over 600MPH.

• Prior to impact it did an almost 270 degree turn, at this Vne+ speed to impact the ground floor offices in an area of the Pentagon into which an accounts team had just been relocated to investigate a missing trillion dollars from the Pentagon budget. Rumsfeld made this announcement about the missing money the night before 9-11 on National TV.

• Had the aircraft stayed on its original heading, instead of making a spectacular 270 deg. turn it would have impacted the area of the Pentagon that housed all the top brass, including Rumsfeld.

• At the point of impact it was flying approx 3m above ground level, having ‘jumped’ a hump in the highway it passed over and a also jumped a gantry of in its path. It also managed this feat without so much as damaging a blade of grass on the Pentagon lawns

• Upon impact the aircrafts composite fibre nose punched a hole in the outer wall that was significantly smaller than the diameter of the fuselage. The nose cone then appears to have penetrated the building, travelled through several interior reinforced concrete walls, with a combined thickness of around 9m and exited through a hole about 2m in diameter in an inner courtyard, where upon it appears to have vapourised.

• At the point of impact the windows above the impact point were unbroken, this is where the tail and vertical stabiliser would have impacted. There is no indication at all of the impact point of the wings, nor the two engines, which are the two densest single items on the aircraft.

• There was no visible debris in front of or around the entry point, commensurate with other air crash sites. The only photographs produced were a photo of what turned out to be the compressor of an auxiliary power unit and the undercarriage also seems to have remarkably disappeared.

• The columns inside the building were still visible through the entry hole at this time and still intact. After the collapse there is a video showing a telephone directory, standing on a stool at the edge of the demolished area, with its pages flapping in the wind, inspite of the ignition of several thousand litres of Jet A1 fuel.

• Within 30 minutes of the event, Pentagon security were starting to clear the area of debris (evidence) and security also went around the local area confiscating CCTV tapes. Of these 100 odd tapes the only bits released have been five frames from one camera that did not even show an aircraft, just a fire ball.


Experienced airline pilots with tens of thousands of hours on type have said they would find it impossible to manoeuvre such an aircraft at those speeds and make turns that could only be accomplished in a fighter aircraft such as an F16/F18 in the hands of an experienced graduate of the Top Gun school of military aviation.

An aircraft could not fly that low, at that speed because of the ground effect. This is the effect that allows an aircraft to float just before the wheels hit the tarmac. Even after touch down the lift provided by the wings has to be physically broken by spoilers to prevent the aircraft bumping back into the air.

Surely, even the most sceptical person has to ask for some clarrification to explain why the facts appear to refute the story issued as the ‘official’ statement by the US Administration.

So, I think there is a lot that happened on that day that is rather less cut-and-dried than the US Administration would have the people believe and this is only the incident at the Pentagon. There are similar anomalies with ALL the other events.

Something does not seem right?
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Re: 9-11

Postby Paphitis » Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:15 pm

Robin Hood wrote:Daniella,

You never said a truer word!

The fact that 16 plonkers of this forum think that the 9/11 disaster was deliberately self afflicted does say a lot about our society which feeds and breaths on conspiracy theories that overshadow and anull are stupid mistakes.


The only plonkers on this thread are those that come out with such stupid uneducated comments!

Take just one incident on 9-11, that being the impact on the Pentagon by a standard commercial airliner being flown by a pilot with no experience on type and so poor a private pilot that he was refused rental on a Cessna 172 because of his incompetence. If you believe the official story then lets look at a few relevant facts, no conspiracy just a few ‘mistakes’ which seem to conflict with the story given at the time:

• From the flight data recorder, the aircraft was flying at a speed 110Knts above Vne (Velocity never exceed) speed, that is over 600MPH.

• Prior to impact it did an almost 270 degree turn, at this Vne+ speed to impact the ground floor offices in an area of the Pentagon into which an accounts team had just been relocated to investigate a missing trillion dollars from the Pentagon budget. Rumsfeld made this announcement about the missing money the night before 9-11 on National TV.

• Had the aircraft stayed on its original heading, instead of making a spectacular 270 deg. turn it would have impacted the area of the Pentagon that housed all the top brass, including Rumsfeld.

• At the point of impact it was flying approx 3m above ground level, having ‘jumped’ a hump in the highway it passed over and a also jumped a gantry of in its path. It also managed this feat without so much as damaging a blade of grass on the Pentagon lawns

• Upon impact the aircrafts composite fibre nose punched a hole in the outer wall that was significantly smaller than the diameter of the fuselage. The nose cone then appears to have penetrated the building, travelled through several interior reinforced concrete walls, with a combined thickness of around 9m and exited through a hole about 2m in diameter in an inner courtyard, where upon it appears to have vapourised.

• At the point of impact the windows above the impact point were unbroken, this is where the tail and vertical stabiliser would have impacted. There is no indication at all of the impact point of the wings, nor the two engines, which are the two densest single items on the aircraft.

• There was no visible debris in front of or around the entry point, commensurate with other air crash sites. The only photographs produced were a photo of what turned out to be the compressor of an auxiliary power unit and the undercarriage also seems to have remarkably disappeared.

• The columns inside the building were still visible through the entry hole at this time and still intact. After the collapse there is a video showing a telephone directory, standing on a stool at the edge of the demolished area, with its pages flapping in the wind, inspite of the ignition of several thousand litres of Jet A1 fuel.

• Within 30 minutes of the event, Pentagon security were starting to clear the area of debris (evidence) and security also went around the local area confiscating CCTV tapes. Of these 100 odd tapes the only bits released have been five frames from one camera that did not even show an aircraft, just a fire ball.


Experienced airline pilots with tens of thousands of hours on type have said they would find it impossible to manoeuvre such an aircraft at those speeds and make turns that could only be accomplished in a fighter aircraft such as an F16/F18 in the hands of an experienced graduate of the Top Gun school of military aviation.

An aircraft could not fly that low, at that speed because of the ground effect. This is the effect that allows an aircraft to float just before the wheels hit the tarmac. Even after touch down the lift provided by the wings has to be physically broken by spoilers to prevent the aircraft bumping back into the air.

Surely, even the most sceptical person has to ask for some clarrification to explain why the facts appear to refute the story issued as the ‘official’ statement by the US Administration.

So, I think there is a lot that happened on that day that is rather less cut-and-dried than the US Administration would have the people believe and this is only the incident at the Pentagon. There are similar anomalies with ALL the other events.

Something does not seem right?


Should I waste my time with this lunatic or should I let him/her live in their little fantasy world bubble? :lol:
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Re: Was 9/11 an inside job?

Postby EPSILON » Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:25 pm

Cap wrote:Have been reading some interesting posts on another thread from some members, and although its an old topic, it peaked my interest.

My question is, if it was an inside job, how did the CIA manage to collaborate with/manipulate a group of Saudi's to execute an operation like that?
I mean were they that stupid? Did they know their actions were going to result in a full scale invasion, would they have done it anyway?


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Postby Bananiot » Wed Apr 27, 2011 4:55 pm

There is only one conspiracy theory I subscribe to: Jesus was Cypriot! He was still with his parents at 33. He followed the work of his father. His mother thought he was God.
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