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[kurupetos]

Daniella & Yialousa, how many times did you vote?

I didn't vote as there was no option for Israel.

Yeps, it's an inside/outside job indeed. Jews are everywhere. Even in our churches.

[denizaksulu]

Daniella & Yialousa, how many times did you vote?

I didn't vote as there was no option for Israel.

Yeps, it's an inside/outside job indeed. Jews are everywhere. Even in our churches.

Why not the churches? After all Jesus was a Jew

[Bananiot]

Can someone produce the list with the 22 plonkers?

[kurupetos]

Daniella & Yialousa, how many times did you vote?

I didn't vote as there was no option for Israel.

Yeps, it's an inside/outside job indeed. Jews are everywhere. Even in our churches.

Why not the churches? After all Jesus was a Jew

No, a Jew today is defined as a follower of Judaism.

[Daniella]

You can pick to pieces the details of the Pentagon crash and argue about it until the end of time… yes, we can argue about VNE, QNF, QNH and the FDR data (I also have a PPL)…

Personally, I believe that somebody that spent a significant amount of time on a fight simulator could fly an (already flying) plane into a building (you’re going to die; it doesn’t matter if you exceed VNE or coordinate rudder and ailerons).

However, that is somewhat irrelevant. If you believe that the Pentagon crash was part of a plot you also have to accept the Twin Towers crashes were part of the same plot.

And the chances of such a plot to fly aircraft into multiple buildings, and coordinate them with a controlled demolition without anybody involved in the plot breaking secrecy or anything going wrong are infinitesimally small…

how to loose 10.000 points
1) what you mean exatly with "significant" amount of time?
2) what is irrelevant?
3) twin towers collapsed after being mined, so.. since you are not a spring sparrow.. check for some videos on youtube about controlled demolition, then we can discuss about WT7 collapse, for example.

@ paphitis : yes i have a licence to fly "small" aircraft. We have had an ECHO P92 and a couple of "ultralight" as deltaplano...on my board i think i have 120 hours by flying ( most of with a co-pilot )

sweet dreams all

[NEVERSAYNEVER]

19 first class wallies !! Or is it first class ...pricks !!!

No, they are Plonkers just like you minus Robin Hood who has the IQ!

may I respectfully suggest that you consult a specialist who may be able to help you overcome your ... Stupidity . You have no confidence in your self reverting to insignificant absurd remarks might help you whilst engaged in exchanges on a forum but you have to come to terms with your inadequacies! Get life mate don't be a wimp all your life !!

[Paphitis]

You can pick to pieces the details of the Pentagon crash and argue about it until the end of time… yes, we can argue about VNE, QNF, QNH and the FDR data (I also have a PPL)…

Personally, I believe that somebody that spent a significant amount of time on a fight simulator could fly an (already flying) plane into a building (you’re going to die; it doesn’t matter if you exceed VNE or coordinate rudder and ailerons).

However, that is somewhat irrelevant. If you believe that the Pentagon crash was part of a plot you also have to accept the Twin Towers crashes were part of the same plot.

And the chances of such a plot to fly aircraft into multiple buildings, and coordinate them with a controlled demolition without anybody involved in the plot breaking secrecy or anything going wrong are infinitesimally small…

how to loose 10.000 points
1) what you mean exatly with "significant" amount of time?
2) what is irrelevant?
3) twin towers collapsed after being mined, so.. since you are not a spring sparrow.. check for some videos on youtube about controlled demolition, then we can discuss about WT7 collapse, for example.

@ paphitis : yes i have a licence to fly "small" aircraft. We have had an ECHO P92 and a couple of "ultralight" as deltaplano...on my board i think i have 120 hours by flying ( most of with a co-pilot )

sweet dreams all

Good one Daniella!

I have always thought about buying my own aircraft. Always wanted a Beech
Mooney. Maintenance costs, insurance, and hangar fees put me off, plus I probably wouldn't fly it much to justify. Sometimes flying is the last thing on your mind. So I got a boat instead.

Well done on your qualifications. You should be very proud.

[Paphitis]

19 first class wallies !! Or is it first class ...pricks !!!

No, they are Plonkers just like you minus Robin Hood who has the IQ!

may I respectfully suggest that you consult a specialist who may be able to help you overcome your ... Stupidity . You have no confidence in your self reverting to insignificant absurd remarks might help you whilst engaged in exchanges on a forum but you have to come to terms with your inadequacies! Get life mate don't be a wimp all your life !!

May I respectfully ask you to stop being such a Plonker and come out under your usual ID? Are you man enough, or are you too Chicken and a Plonker to boot?

[cyprusgrump]

You can pick to pieces the details of the Pentagon crash and argue about it until the end of time… yes, we can argue about VNE, QNF, QNH and the FDR data (I also have a PPL)…

Personally, I believe that somebody that spent a significant amount of time on a fight simulator could fly an (already flying) plane into a building (you’re going to die; it doesn’t matter if you exceed VNE or coordinate rudder and ailerons).

However, that is somewhat irrelevant. If you believe that the Pentagon crash was part of a plot you also have to accept the Twin Towers crashes were part of the same plot.

And the chances of such a plot to fly aircraft into multiple buildings, and coordinate them with a controlled demolition without anybody involved in the plot breaking secrecy or anything going wrong are infinitesimally small…

how to loose 10.000 points
1) what you mean exatly with "significant" amount of time?
2) what is irrelevant?
3) twin towers collapsed after being mined, so.. since you are not a spring sparrow.. check for some videos on youtube about controlled demolition, then we can discuss about WT7 collapse, for example.

@ paphitis : yes i have a licence to fly "small" aircraft. We have had an ECHO P92 and a couple of "ultralight" as deltaplano...on my board i think i have 120 hours by flying ( most of with a co-pilot )

sweet dreams all

A quick question: -

Do you also believe all the Youtube videos that 'prove' man did not land on the Moon?

@ Paphitis - I used to have a ¼ share in an Arrow - I sold it to Ian Whittle, the son of Frank who invented the jet engine!

[Robin Hood]

Maybe to ask the original pole question as ‘Was 9-11 an inside job?’ was the wrong question as it would be impossible to come to definitive YES or NO conclusion. So, how about we ask a similar question?

‘Was there complicity between the US Administration and those that carried out 9-11?’

In my book the answer is ‘very probably’.

To return to the Pentagon incident...................

The flight data recorder was recovered at the scene but was handed to the FBI, not the FAA or NTSB, as the FBI had jurisdiction because this was a crime scene. It was not returned to the NTSB until some time later. From the information both the NTSB and the 9-11 Investigation Committee produced videos as flight simulations showing all the relevant information ....speed, altimeter, altimeter settings, heading, bank angle, throttle setting etc. and a visual representation of the aircraft in flight. So, both used the same information but managed to come up with two different scenarios.

A web site called ‘Pilots for 9-11 Truth’ have analysed both these videos and a mass of other factual information, have identified many anomalies and have asked questions of the official bodies involved including the US Government, FBI, CIA, NTSB etc. but have received very few replies. What this outfit has not done is to formulate any theories, they have only asked relevant questions where stories clash with hard evidence or with one another when based on the same evidence. So, this is NOT A CONSPIRACY THEORY.

Just some anomalies are:

The flight data recorder shows all the flight details from departure, through the whole flight to the Pentagon but for some reason stops recording just one second before impact.

One parameter recorded every four seconds is the flight deck door status as ‘OPEN’ or ‘Closed’. This recorded parameter shows that the flight deck door was closed and was not opened at all during the flight.

The track of the aircraft in each video was different by a couple of hundred meters. The NTSB video shows the track to the left of the petrol station but the other video shows the track as being well to the right.

The five video frames released by the FBI show ‘something’ in one frame, white, at ground level and to the right of a small building. The next frame was the fireball. The length of a 757 is approximately twice the height of the Pentagon building (77 ft) and the tail section towers 40 ft above the ground. The one thing that is clear from this frame is that the object was NOT a 757. No tail structure visible and the object was less than half the height of the building.

Had the 757 levelled off to impact the building at ground floor level, the engine nacelles would have ploughed two furrows across the manicured lawn as to get the fuselage low enough to impact the ground floor, the engines would have been below ground level.

There are many other questions that need answering. If somebody screwed up and got it wrong then that is something that can happen in any investigation but, to ascertain what actually happened that day, these questions need to be answered. It is the reluctance of the official bodies to explain the errors and conflicts with irrefutable facts, that leads the uninformed making assumptions. No single independent body has been set to investigate all the facts. The 9-11 Investigating Committee was set up and the members appointed, by the US Administration and had a very narrow brief and a very limited budget, so it was neither independent nor sufficiently funded.

‘Pilots for 9-11 truth’ cover each of the 9-11 incidents by flight and each follows the same pattern, as that for the Pentagon Flt #77, namely to indentify discrepancies and ask questions. It has never made any accusations that there was a conspiracy.

According to the US Administration, they had no pre-warning of the attacks and had very little hard evidence. Within 24-36 hours we knew almost everything about 19 Saudi hijackers including all about the flight centre training, where they all lived and had previously lived and what they did the night before 9-11. Now, considering the Administration had no idea of anything amiss, they sure made up for their previous shortfalls and failures and in record time!

Did the US Government plan it? Definitely a ‘NO’, be reasonable George Bush Jr. would have trouble tying his shoelaces without help. But, how many of us have been in the position where some ‘senior manager’ has come out with that all encompassing statement, ‘ Fix it.....I don’t want to know how ... just do it and tell me when it’s done!’ This is called you keeping his/her balls out of the fire (metaphorically speaking). They make the statement.... get somebody else to plan it, take the risk and delegate .....and then deny everything when the s**t hits the fan. We are dealing with politicians here who must rate as the biggest liars and cheats on the face of the planet, so why should we just believe what they tell us without question.

By delegating responsibility for implementing a blanket verbal command, it is possible to break the operation down into smaller cells, each with certain responsibilities, but each totally unaware of the overall picture, or the reason why. The whole picture could be in the hands of maybe half a dozen very important people and nobody else would ever know. So, whilst hundreds maybe even thousands of individuals are involved, none of them are remotely aware of their part in the operation either before or after fact.

It is possible but, is that what actually happened? I don’t know, neither can any of us know for sure but we can question events to bring out all the facts, not just those that suit the Official Story.