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No EU for Turkey anytime soon

Postby B25 » Sat Apr 23, 2011 12:59 pm

Turkey Excluded From EU's 2014-2020 Budget Plans

Turkey has been excluded from the draft EU budget plans for the 2014 - 2020 period. Because new members of the EU are entitled to special payments for the first few years after joining, it is customary to include candidate countries that are expected to join in the near future. Croatia, for example, currently a candidate country, has been included in the budget. But Turkey has not been, despite diplomatic pressure from Ankara.

This is interpreted as a sign that Turkey is not likely to join the EU within the next few years, although it does not strictly preclude Turkey from joining before 2020.


http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2011-04-20


Seems the EU doesn't need Turkey that much afterall. :lol: :lol:
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Postby Pax » Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:12 pm

Supposing Turkey is kept out of the EU or that Turkey no longer wishes to join the EU - both have been continuing possibilities - what will this do to the Cyprus problem ? Will it make a settlement more likely or less likely ? And what kind of settlement : permanent division or some kind of re-unification ?
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Postby Hermes » Sat Apr 23, 2011 3:38 pm

Turkish civil society is still keen on EU membership - even if the AKP has led the accession talks into deadlock:

More than 100 nongovernmental organizations (NGOs), including Turkey’s main business associations and trade unions, joined forces on Friday to call on politicians to revive Turkey’s stalled European Union membership process... The NGOs lamented Turkey’s EU membership appeared to have ceased to become a matter of priority for both the Turkish and EU sides. “For us, EU membership means sustainable development, higher democratic standards, individual freedoms, gender equality and welfare society. Temporary political and economic developments in Turkey or in the EU cannot change this fact,” they said in the statement, read out at a news conference...


http://www.todayszaman.com/news-241772- ... tions.html
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Apr 23, 2011 4:18 pm

Obviously, that negotiated settlement might be a federation, so far favored for some unclear reasons by the international community, confederation or two independent states.


Obviously?? :shock:
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Postby Piratis » Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:38 pm

Pax wrote:Supposing Turkey is kept out of the EU or that Turkey no longer wishes to join the EU - both have been continuing possibilities - what will this do to the Cyprus problem ? Will it make a settlement more likely or less likely ? And what kind of settlement : permanent division or some kind of re-unification ?


The idea that by bringing the Turks closer to EU they will become nicer and more agreeable is nonsense.

If the Turks really want to join the EU then they have to make certain compromises, in Cyprus and not only. If they are not willing to make these compromises then we have absolutely nothing to gain from Turkey joining the EU. On the contrary such thing would be against our interests.

If Turkey is not willing to make the required compromises that means a peaceful solution will not be found. That means liberation to the north part of Cyprus will need to come without the agreement of the Turks. For that to happen the Turks need to be pushed as far from EU and the West as possible. Iraq of Saddam Husein and Afghanistan of Bin Laden where also USA allies at some point in history. This changed, and the same can happen with Turkey.
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Postby repulsewarrior » Sat Apr 23, 2011 5:55 pm

...obviously?

turkspeak for the issue they are dismissing, for some unknown reason the international community's preference.

...hey, the "Turks" are flexible, a choice between confederation or two independent states.
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