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[zan]

Have any of you read anything at all that is longer than a pamphlet. It was Greek terrorists that killed innocent women and children in their bath only a couple of hundred yards from where our mother was hiding me and my brothers and sisters in our bath. It was the continued killings that forced us out of the country with only a few pounds in our pockets in 1965. It was Greek bullets that nearly cut my cousins Toyota van in half as the terrorist jumped out from behind a bush and opened fire, just before the 1974 war. It was Greek terrorists that killed many peace loving GC peoples in order to get them to co-operate. These people are now watching helplessly while EOKA members are being decorated in their name. The Turks came and stopped a lot of the killing. Denktas himself has confessed that all the GCs that were killed in 1974 were first captured by the Turkish army and handed over to the TCs. It was then that the revenge killings started. In a state of total war. Your Greek propaganda is working fantastically well. Perhaps a little light reading while your sitting on the toilet in your bathrooms and imagining what it must have been like sitting in a bath waiting to die with bullets exploding around you might make you see sense.
You see a picture of a few refugees as a threat. Wake up and smell the humus boys and girls. Look who’s behind you.

[zan]

Have any of you read anything at all that is longer than a pamphlet. It was Greek terrorists that killed innocent women and children in their bath only a couple of hundred yards from where our mother was hiding me and my brothers and sisters in our bath. It was the continued killings that forced us out of the country with only a few pounds in our pockets in 1965. It was Greek bullets that nearly cut my cousins Toyota van in half as the terrorist jumped out from behind a bush and opened fire, just before the 1974 war. It was Greek terrorists that killed many peace loving GC peoples in order to get them to co-operate. These people are now watching helplessly while EOKA members are being decorated in their name. The Turks came and stopped a lot of the killing. Denktas himself has confessed that all the GCs that were killed in 1974 were first captured by the Turkish army and handed over to the TCs. It was then that the revenge killings started. In a state of total war. Your Greek propaganda is working fantastically well. Perhaps a little light reading while your sitting on the toilet in your bathrooms and imagining what it must have been like sitting in a bath waiting to die with bullets exploding around you might make you see sense.
You see a picture of a few refugees as a threat. Wake up and smell the humus boys and girls. Look who’s behind you.

[cypezokyli]

just like anothe new member of the forum, vassos1 you to seem to be carrying old wounds from the past.
it is sad that gcs and tcs did those things to each other.
but times have changed. they really did

[BirKibrisli]

Zan,

It is obvious you have a lot of pain and bitterness not dealt with properly and it is not helping you move forward in this tragic conflict.
I have been talking about the need to have a Truth and Reconciliation Commission for Cyprus,where people can tell their stories,perhaps get an apology and acknowledgement of their hurt,which might let them forgive the past if not forget.Do you think something like this might help us in Cyprus?Many people had similar experiences to yours,and feel exactly like you do.But do you think it helps us find a just and lasting solution if we keep repeating this stuff,renewing the hatred.We must stop making judgements (my pain was biger than your pain,more of us were affected than you lot etc),and realise that both communities were the victims in this conflict.Those people who committed crimes against humanity were also the victims of ultranationalistic hate campaigns.We mustn't fight each other any longer like rats in a cage.We must unite against those who have put us into those cages,and who benefited from our misery.We need to start helping each other to overcome our pain.Or this conflict will drag on forever,and we will be the losers,us Cypriots.

[zan]

Birkibrisli


I have said sorry to my friend Phedos a hundred times and he has said the same to me. We are not to blame.
Listen let me tell you something. I can tell a Cypriot, be he Turkish or Greek from a thousand yards. You can tell from just the way they speak another language if they are Cypriot or not. I feel an affinity with all Cypriots. I feel at home with them even though I grew up in England. I have no problem with them.

I have told my father off for calling GCs “Gavur” many times. I am not a racist by any stretch of the imagination. In fact I am known as a champion of anti-racism, and I will attack it where ever I see it, be it light hearted or not.

The thought of getting these people that have bad memories all into one room and having them say sorry! Rather you than me, because you are going to need the patience of Job to do it. Besides, the so-called Elite versions of these people are sitting in government positions right now and are constantly trying to come to terms with what happened and have achieved nothing in forty years. Makes you shudder doesn’t it.

[Black Cat]

i live in the greek cypriot side and i have visited "the other side" many times and i also have a few turkish friends. I've noticed that greekcypriots are more racists than turkish cypriots. But anyhow both sides have the same problem at some point. Racism is a weakness of each person. Its the fear of difference or a prejudice from the past..

[zan]

i live in the greek cypriot side and i have visited "the other side" many times and i also have a few turkish friends. I've noticed that greekcypriots are more racists than turkish cypriots. But anyhow both sides have the same problem at some point. Racism is a weakness of each person. Its the fear of difference or a prejudice from the past..

Or it can be taught?

[BirKibrisli]

Birkibrisli


I have said sorry to my friend Phedos a hundred times and he has said the same to me. We are not to blame.
Listen let me tell you something. I can tell a Cypriot, be he Turkish or Greek from a thousand yards. You can tell from just the way they speak another language if they are Cypriot or not. I feel an affinity with all Cypriots. I feel at home with them even though I grew up in England. I have no problem with them.

I have told my father off for calling GCs “Gavur” many times. I am not a racist by any stretch of the imagination. In fact I am known as a champion of anti-racism, and I will attack it where ever I see it, be it light hearted or not.

The thought of getting these people that have bad memories all into one room and having them say sorry! Rather you than me, because you are going to need the patience of Job to do it. Besides, the so-called Elite versions of these people are sitting in government positions right now and are constantly trying to come to terms with what happened and have achieved nothing in forty years. Makes you shudder doesn’t it.

It is funny Zan,but I too can tell a Cypriot a mile away.
That is because we are the same poeple,separated by manmade/accidental things like language and religion.I have been asking my mother's friends,old TC ladies in their 80s or 90s,if they knew of any mixed marriages in Cyprus.Without an exception everybody knew someone whose mother or grandmother were GC.The tragedy was that these women who married Turks had to change their names and religions,and were totally asimilated.Most of them also knew of Turkish Cypriot women who married GC men and disappeared from the face of the earth.Isn't this sheer madness,total lunacy?I sometimes think it is because we are the same people,blood brothers and sisters,that makes it so difficult to reconcile.You can easily forgive a stranger for the wrongs done,but it is much more difficult to forgive your own brother or sister.
But we are family,we are all we have,us Cypriots.We mustn't give up on each other.Never,Zan.

[Main_Source]

Or it can be taught?

If this was the case, then Turkey has some amazing teachers.