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How Many of you GC visited "the occupied areas"?

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby cypezokyli » Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:56 am

blackley

very nice post indeed. but i guess out of subject.
i would say open a new threat. so we can discuss it
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Postby Realist » Wed Sep 14, 2005 9:13 pm

Blakey,

Just because you read a book; (one view of an island that has so many different angles) it doesn't mean what you read necessarily accurate. Who is this so called professor?

A part of history you might like to take note of is the special relationship between Germany and the Ottoman empire. This carried into the 20th century when Turkey/Ottoman empire sided with Germany in the first world war.

A German Professor living in Cyprus at the time would not necessary be an unbiased historian.
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Postby PEACE » Fri Oct 21, 2005 11:08 pm

Well,in general GCs are telling in this forum that "I won't visit north till ROC takes control." But don't forget even ROC takes control this won't be today's ROC.Also even if we return back the structure won't be like today.It will be bi-communal.We have constitutional rights in ROC and we'll take all of them if we return.
Returning back is so big problem.No-one can return back today,now even they say "lets everybody return".
Who will pay the damage? Who will repair villages that erased from map? (in south).Even now turkish army is drawn back and we agree on all subjects except compensation and property problem this two is big as whole Cyprus Problem i think.
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Postby Piratis » Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:38 pm

We have constitutional rights in ROC and we'll take all of them if we return.

Similarly we want to take all our rights too.

Who will pay the damage?

The ones that are responsible. After 1974 this is Turkey. Any damages before 74 can be paid by RoC.
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Postby faruk » Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:38 am

you are all talking about the TRNC as the occupied areas and asking that how many GC visited TRNC. So let me ask you that how many of you have read the Akritas Plan. then we can speak about the occupation which is in real a peace keeping operation depending on the london and Zurich agreement and accepted by the Greece that it was not unconstitutional operation.
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Postby ELLAS H TEFRA! » Mon Oct 31, 2005 12:40 am

faruk wrote:you are all talking about the TRNC as the occupied areas and asking that how many GC visited TRNC. So let me ask you that how many of you have read the Akritas Plan. then we can speak about the occupation which is in real a peace keeping operation depending on the london and Zurich agreement and accepted by the Greece that it was not unconstitutional operation.

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Postby Main_Source » Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:02 am

Faruk, have you ACTUALLY read the REAL Akritas plan...or have you just beleived the Turkish hyped version of the plan?

Do you think it is right that a TC should get certain employment over a GC simply because of their ethinicity, as opposed to how good they are to fill that position?
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Postby Main_Source » Mon Oct 31, 2005 1:05 am

ELLAS H TEFRA...dont really see the point of that pic.

Anatolians are as different to Cypriots as Cypriots are to Scandinavians.
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Postby ELLAS H TEFRA! » Mon Oct 31, 2005 2:23 pm

Main_Source wrote:ELLAS H TEFRA...dont really see the point of that pic.

Anatolians are as different to Cypriots as Cypriots are to Scandinavians.

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How many of you GC visited "the occupied areas"?

Postby blackley » Sat Nov 05, 2005 3:21 am

In the two years it took to write “Love and Death in Cyprus” I researched every aspect of the Cyprus problem and I can assure everyone that I read every document, speech and book on the subject. This included statements and opinions from Turkish Cypriot, Greek Cypriot and other sources, including some very little known material from the Internet. Readers from both communities have informed me that my novel contains many facts that they were not previously aware of. The book is now available in Cyprus, North and South, or from www.lovedeathcypus.com
With regard to some comments being made about migrants to Cyprus, people have been migrating from Cyprus and countries such as Greece, Turkey, Scotland, Ireland and so on for centuries, hence the large diaspora of these people in countries all over the world. Similarly there are many people from round the world who have chosen to live and work in Cyprus. There is nothing sinister in this movement of people who migrate in order to have a better life. With the enlargement of the EU, this will continue in the future. Australia is one of the most multicultural countries in the world and all the better for the influx of migrants from Europe, Asia and elsewhere. Turkish people are not noted for promoting themselves in books and films. It is not a national characteristic. I hope that my fictional account of the lives of Leyla and Alexander set in Cyprus, Turkey and Australia shows that we are all the same Let me quote from “The Merchant of Venice” and ask that you replace Jew with Turk.
I am a Jew. Hath not a Jew eyes? hath not a Jew hands, organs,
dimensions, senses, affections, passions? fed with
the same food, hurt with the same weapons, subject
to the same diseases, healed by the same means,
warmed and cooled by the same winter and summer, as
a Christian is? If you prick us, do we not bleed?
if you tickle us, do we not laugh? if you poison
us, do we not die? and if you wrong us, shall we not
revenge? If we are like you in the rest, we will
resemble you in that. If a Jew wrong a Christian,
what is his humility? Revenge. If a Christian
wrong a Jew, what should his sufferance be by
Christian example? Why, revenge. The villany you
teach me, I will execute, and it shall go hard but I
will better the instruction.
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