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Turkish Minister's Meltdown over Cyprus

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Postby Cap » Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:41 am

Yfred is that you? lol
Unpleasant surprise I must say.
You forgot to add your Anatolian rag..
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:08 am

BirKibrisli wrote:Turkey has done reasonably well economically for not being a member of the EU...You can't say the same about Greece despite being a member...So the stalemate is not hurting Turkey at all...In fact,the EU is playing into Erdogan's and Davutoglu's hands by keeping Turkey's accession talks crawling...That gives Erdogan the time he needs to turn Turkey into a Democratic Islamic Republic and a leading player in the region and the Islamic world beyond...And brings agreed Partition one step closer...Without Turkey pulling one soldier out or giving up one inch of the Territory she controls in Cyprus...You people are fiddling while Rome burns...


Hi Bir,

At the same time, Erdogan, Davutoglu and Gül may be playing into the EU's hands, in the hope that these characters do in fact try to turn Turkey into a "Democratic Islamic Republic", in order to start the beginning of Turkey's breakup, where the western half part of Turkey (the most modern) will become part of the EU with the help of the Turkish military, the secular elites and the west, and let the rest of the fanatical Islamist Turks battle out for the remaining part of Turkey between the Kurds and the Armenians. Can you for a minute believe that the Turkish military and the secular elites of Turkey will allow these fanatical Islamist characters to turn all of Turkey into a Islamic state run by these delusional Autocrats wannabes.?
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:11 am

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
CBBB wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:They cant even apply as they know its a waste of time Turkey will never allow it.


Actually, Cyprus being in NATO would benefit the TCs far more than the GCs. The TCs would be able to make the argument that the TA can stay in Cyprus as a NATO member military power, but obviously, VP can't see that far down his nose. :roll:


Prey tell us the disadvantages? if you dare.


Can't think of any, can you?


The question is for Kikapu as he is so biased wanted to give him the chance to see if he can say anything about the disadvantages for Turkey if the allow the GC admin in, he obviously will not answer.


My ONLY concerns are for the Cypriots, TCs and the GCs, and not for Turkey or Greece. It is very obvious that your main concerns are and has always been in what happens to Turkey and the settlers and not for the TCs. Your Turkey biased concerns are always before the TCs interests.

Why don't you educate us and tell us what are the disadvantages for Turkey by Cyprus being in NATO, other than she can't stay in Cyprus as an occupying power.


Still waiting on VP to "educate" us.! :lol:
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Postby CBBB » Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:04 am

Kikapu wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
CBBB wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:They cant even apply as they know its a waste of time Turkey will never allow it.


Actually, Cyprus being in NATO would benefit the TCs far more than the GCs. The TCs would be able to make the argument that the TA can stay in Cyprus as a NATO member military power, but obviously, VP can't see that far down his nose. :roll:


Prey tell us the disadvantages? if you dare.


Can't think of any, can you?


The question is for Kikapu as he is so biased wanted to give him the chance to see if he can say anything about the disadvantages for Turkey if the allow the GC admin in, he obviously will not answer.


My ONLY concerns are for the Cypriots, TCs and the GCs, and not for Turkey or Greece. It is very obvious that your main concerns are and has always been in what happens to Turkey and the settlers and not for the TCs. Your Turkey biased concerns are always before the TCs interests.

Why don't you educate us and tell us what are the disadvantages for Turkey by Cyprus being in NATO, other than she can't stay in Cyprus as an occupying power.


Still waiting on VP to "educate" us.! :lol:


You will have to wait for him to get home from his nursery!
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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:10 pm

Hermes wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:And brings agreed Partition one step closer..


Can you explain to me how you plan to get the ROC to agree to partition? Now bear in mind that this would involve a voluntary renunciation of ROC sovereignty over the north and all international and legal agreements that confirm the ROC as the legitimate authority of the entire island.


Simple,Hermes...Turkey has so far not asked anyone to recognise the trnc...If the status quo continues,and Turkey's influence grows,as all indicators show,one day she might ask some of the countries under her sphere of influence to recognise the trnc...Once a handful of countries start normal relations with the trnc the floodgates will open...The world knows how the True RoC came to become the present RoC,so you will not get much sympathy from the UN...The EU will make some noise but I doubt they will go out of their way to show real and effective support for the RoC...Another 25 years and everyone would wonder what the fuss was all about...
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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:15 pm

SKI-preo wrote:
gr cy admin can start killing TCs again and Turkey can't intervene because 2 NATO members cannot be at war.


Is there anyone stupid enough out there who actually believes Turkey invaded,napalmed and ethnically cleansed entire towns in Cyprus where Turkish Cypriots never lived "to stop the killing of Turkish Cypriots"?


Is there anyone stupid enough to believe that Turkey 'invaded,napalmed and ethnically cleansed entire towns' just for fun???? :?
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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:28 pm

Kikapu wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:Turkey has done reasonably well economically for not being a member of the EU...You can't say the same about Greece despite being a member...So the stalemate is not hurting Turkey at all...In fact,the EU is playing into Erdogan's and Davutoglu's hands by keeping Turkey's accession talks crawling...That gives Erdogan the time he needs to turn Turkey into a Democratic Islamic Republic and a leading player in the region and the Islamic world beyond...And brings agreed Partition one step closer...Without Turkey pulling one soldier out or giving up one inch of the Territory she controls in Cyprus...You people are fiddling while Rome burns...


Hi Bir,

At the same time, Erdogan, Davutoglu and Gül may be playing into the EU's hands, in the hope that these characters do in fact try to turn Turkey into a "Democratic Islamic Republic", in order to start the beginning of Turkey's breakup, where the western half part of Turkey (the most modern) will become part of the EU with the help of the Turkish military, the secular elites and the west, and let the rest of the fanatical Islamist Turks battle out for the remaining part of Turkey between the Kurds and the Armenians. Can you for a minute believe that the Turkish military and the secular elites of Turkey will allow these fanatical Islamist characters to turn all of Turkey into a Islamic state run by these delusional Autocrats wannabes.?


Hi,Kikapu...The time for military interventions in Turkey is over,mate...The only time the military would invervene now would be IF there is a real danger of Turkey breaking up...Erdogan and his party are too smart to bring Turkey to that point...They will take their time and turn Turkey slowly into a 'democratic' Islamic republic,and as long as they have the support of the majority of Turkish citizens no one will be able to do anything about it,especially in the present 'Arabic spring' conditions...That is why I say the EU is playing into their hands...
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Postby adabizim » Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:55 pm

SKI-preo wrote:
gr cy admin can start killing TCs again and Turkey can't intervene because 2 NATO members cannot be at war.


Is there anyone stupid enough out there who actually believes Turkey invaded,napalmed and ethnically cleansed entire towns in Cyprus where Turkish Cypriots never lived "to stop the killing of Turkish Cypriots"?


Whatever it takes to make you behave...
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Postby DT. » Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:04 pm

adabizim wrote:
SKI-preo wrote:
gr cy admin can start killing TCs again and Turkey can't intervene because 2 NATO members cannot be at war.


Is there anyone stupid enough out there who actually believes Turkey invaded,napalmed and ethnically cleansed entire towns in Cyprus where Turkish Cypriots never lived "to stop the killing of Turkish Cypriots"?


Whatever it takes to make you behave...


All this force, all these millions of Turks....tsk tsk....Ask an outsider who would they rather be in the past 50 years. A Greek, a Turk, a GC or a TC?

You should be ashamed of yourselves, a tiny island like Cyprus holding a "power" such as Turkey outside of the EU. :oops:
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Postby Cap » Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:12 pm

adabizim wrote:
SKI-preo wrote:
gr cy admin can start killing TCs again and Turkey can't intervene because 2 NATO members cannot be at war.


Is there anyone stupid enough out there who actually believes Turkey invaded,napalmed and ethnically cleansed entire towns in Cyprus where Turkish Cypriots never lived "to stop the killing of Turkish Cypriots"?


Whatever it takes to make you behave...


Yfred, you truly are obsessed.
You don't give up easily do you?

Did you think your short, choppy blunt posts were gonna hide your identity?
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