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[BirKibrisli]

In a few words: You are not Cypriot. Neither is Downer. What we want is not the status quo. What we want is Liberation. All Turkish troops out of Cyprus, all settlers out of Cyprus, all refugees back to their homes, freedom to our whole island. This is what solution means. Nothing else is a solution and that is why we will accept nothing else.

Turkish troops and settlers will be out of Cyprus as soon as a fair and lasting solution is found!...If you insist that Cyprus is a Greek island,and try to outmanouver the TCs and Turkey out of the equation,you will get nowhere,as in our recent past...The choice is yours...

[BirKibrisli]

So according to Sotos,the government here supports my personal interests and not those of the majority?I suppose I should be flattered that I have become so important........but leaving those weird allegations aside,it is unfortunately true that the majority of Greek-Cypriots are so fed-up with the way politicians behave that they no longer believe what they say!People here nowadays mostly care about their own interests and after seeing so many years of fruitless efforts to find a solution they have started to believe that it is impossible to find one.....with most of the media also against changing the status quo,the church leadership and virtually everyone under 40 who has never known Cyprus as being any different from the way it is now,why should they want to change it?The only people who do are mostly older refugeees who still hold-out some hope that they might be able to return to Varosha,Morphou etc. if there is a deal and a few others with vision who dare to believe in something different.....
Whether we like it or not,time solves situations in its own way and changing things involves risks which nobody here wants to take,especially when they have a relatively comfortable lifestyle the way things are now!I cannot believe that Christophias will be prepared to shoulder the responsibility either when the crunch comes during the coming months?

Are you even Cypriot?

No he is not, but he is married to one.

Cymart, it is obvious people will do whats in their interest. You tell me one person who doesn't. You yourself are thinking of moving to another country if I remember correctly. Isn't that a self interest action? So why are you knocking people for wanting whats best for them.

people vote for political parties, not necessarily that they agree with everything they say, but where it suits them they will.

A settlement has not been reached for the simple reason, the Turks are making ridiculous demands that are totally unacceptable to the MAJORITY of the GCs. The Gc side has shown compromise (most of which I disagree with), but the Turks won't move. So, it is not business people pulling the strings, but Ankara.

You as a moderate, need a better sense of balance, as you mainly have only put downs for the GC side to give.

There has been no settlement because the fanatical/chauvenistic GCs still believe Cyprus to be a Greek island,and still have the spirit of Enosis in their veins...To purge the TCs off Cyprus and make Cyprus a Greek island! When you realise this will never happen,and come to your senses,there will be a solution...Albeit a two state solution,it is too late for anything else...

Stick it up your bum!

There will not be a 2 State Solution because we will never vote for such a thing unless this 2 State Solution is an Australian or German style Federal System based on EU principles and the EU and UN Charter on HR!

GCs will never vote for anything less than that!

Nobody will ask you to vote next time...You cannot be trusted with a vote..You have showed it time and time again...It will be like it or lump it..Get used to the idea...Or make plans to go and live on a Greek island!

[Paphitis]

So according to Sotos,the government here supports my personal interests and not those of the majority?I suppose I should be flattered that I have become so important........but leaving those weird allegations aside,it is unfortunately true that the majority of Greek-Cypriots are so fed-up with the way politicians behave that they no longer believe what they say!People here nowadays mostly care about their own interests and after seeing so many years of fruitless efforts to find a solution they have started to believe that it is impossible to find one.....with most of the media also against changing the status quo,the church leadership and virtually everyone under 40 who has never known Cyprus as being any different from the way it is now,why should they want to change it?The only people who do are mostly older refugeees who still hold-out some hope that they might be able to return to Varosha,Morphou etc. if there is a deal and a few others with vision who dare to believe in something different.....
Whether we like it or not,time solves situations in its own way and changing things involves risks which nobody here wants to take,especially when they have a relatively comfortable lifestyle the way things are now!I cannot believe that Christophias will be prepared to shoulder the responsibility either when the crunch comes during the coming months?

Are you even Cypriot?

No he is not, but he is married to one.

Cymart, it is obvious people will do whats in their interest. You tell me one person who doesn't. You yourself are thinking of moving to another country if I remember correctly. Isn't that a self interest action? So why are you knocking people for wanting whats best for them.

people vote for political parties, not necessarily that they agree with everything they say, but where it suits them they will.

A settlement has not been reached for the simple reason, the Turks are making ridiculous demands that are totally unacceptable to the MAJORITY of the GCs. The Gc side has shown compromise (most of which I disagree with), but the Turks won't move. So, it is not business people pulling the strings, but Ankara.

You as a moderate, need a better sense of balance, as you mainly have only put downs for the GC side to give.

There has been no settlement because the fanatical/chauvenistic GCs still believe Cyprus to be a Greek island,and still have the spirit of Enosis in their veins...To purge the TCs off Cyprus and make Cyprus a Greek island! When you realise this will never happen,and come to your senses,there will be a solution...Albeit a two state solution,it is too late for anything else...

Stick it up your bum!

There will not be a 2 State Solution because we will never vote for such a thing unless this 2 State Solution is an Australian or German style Federal System based on EU principles and the EU and UN Charter on HR!

GCs will never vote for anything less than that!

Nobody will ask you to vote next time...You cannot be trusted with a vote..You have showed it time and time again...It will be like it or lump it..Get used to the idea...Or make plans to go and live on a Greek island!

I don't think so!

We can't be trusted to vote because we didn't vote in favour of the biased unworkable ANAN Plan? Is this the reason why we can't be trusted?

There will be a vote if a plan is agreed to, but the people will have their say, and if they don't like it, then you can stick it up ya bum once again sunshine!

[Hermes]

There has been no settlement because the fanatical/chauvenistic GCs still believe Cyprus to be a Greek island,and still have the spirit of Enosis in their veins...To purge the TCs off Cyprus and make Cyprus a Greek island! When you realise this will never happen,and come to your senses,there will be a solution...Albeit a two state solution,it is too late for anything else...

There has been no solution because you and your fascist friends want a confederation which we will not grant you. When you realise this isn't going to happen you might come to your senses. Failing that you can go take a flying jump!

[Sotos]

A real solution is one that will demolish that illegal airport, not legitimize it! A real solution is one which solves the problems and serves the interests of the Cypriot people, not one that serves the interests of the Turkish invaders!

Cypriot people,Sotos??? I thought Cyprus was a Greek island! If you are right then there are NO Cypriot people,only Greeks and Turks! make up your mind,are you living on a Greek island with fellow Greeks,or in Cyprus with fellow Cypriots? You can't have it both ways...

The Greek people who are in Cyprus are the Cypriot people. Is that hard for you to understand?

[Sotos]

In a few words: You are not Cypriot. Neither is Downer. What we want is not the status quo. What we want is Liberation. All Turkish troops out of Cyprus, all settlers out of Cyprus, all refugees back to their homes, freedom to our whole island. This is what solution means. Nothing else is a solution and that is why we will accept nothing else.

Turkish troops and settlers will be out of Cyprus as soon as a fair and lasting solution is found!...If you insist that Cyprus is a Greek island,and try to outmanouver the TCs and Turkey out of the equation,you will get nowhere,as in our recent past...The choice is yours...

The Turks are the disease of our island. Take the Turks out of the equation and all the problems of Cyprus are solved. Have the Turks in the equation and they will continue to fuck up our island.

[BirKibrisli]

A real solution is one that will demolish that illegal airport, not legitimize it! A real solution is one which solves the problems and serves the interests of the Cypriot people, not one that serves the interests of the Turkish invaders!

Cypriot people,Sotos??? I thought Cyprus was a Greek island! If you are right then there are NO Cypriot people,only Greeks and Turks! make up your mind,are you living on a Greek island with fellow Greeks,or in Cyprus with fellow Cypriots? You can't have it both ways...

The Greek people who are in Cyprus are the Cypriot people. Is that hard for you to understand?

You cannot be Greek and Cypriot at the same time...That is obviously too hard for you to understand...

[Paphitis]

A real solution is one that will demolish that illegal airport, not legitimize it! A real solution is one which solves the problems and serves the interests of the Cypriot people, not one that serves the interests of the Turkish invaders!

Cypriot people,Sotos??? I thought Cyprus was a Greek island! If you are right then there are NO Cypriot people,only Greeks and Turks! make up your mind,are you living on a Greek island with fellow Greeks,or in Cyprus with fellow Cypriots? You can't have it both ways...

The Greek people who are in Cyprus are the Cypriot people. Is that hard for you to understand?

You cannot be Greek and Cypriot at the same time...That is obviously too hard for you to understand...

Who said!

Cretans are Cretans, and Greek.

Athenians are Athenians, and Greek.

Australians are Australians, and English, Irish, Italian, Greek or whatever...

Cypriots are Cypriots, and Greek!

What is so difficult for you to understand?

[Bananiot]

Birkibrisli,you have forgotten my advice. You are talking to a stone wall, these people have long taken a divorse from reality. Their irrational and bysmal adherence to what they consider to be their greekness has clouded their judgment irreversibly. In the sme manner they lightly dismissed the Annan Plan, they dismissed some 13 other plans since 1948 before the dreaded one. Each dismissal, coated of course with patriotic nonsense,has brought disaster one step nearer. Still they never learn but they remain super patriotic of course ...

[Piratis]

Birkibrisli,you have forgotten my advice. You are talking to a stone wall, these people have long taken a divorse from reality. Their irrational and bysmal adherence to what they consider to be their greekness has clouded their judgment irreversibly. In the sme manner they lightly dismissed the Annan Plan, they dismissed some 13 other plans since 1948 before the dreaded one. Each dismissal, coated of course with patriotic nonsense,has brought disaster one step nearer. Still they never learn but they remain super patriotic of course ...

Did we dismiss the plan for a truly free Cyprus where the Cypriot people can freely and democratically decide the destiny of their own island?

Let me propose some things to you:

- Shoot your brains off with a gun.
- Jump off a 100m high cliff
- Cut your veins with a knife
- Tie a 50 kg rock on your neck and jump in the sea

I am sure others will have many more proposals to offer to you on how to end your life. And if your aim is to end your life, then surely you should take one of the proposals the soonest.

But we don't need proposals on how to suicide, so we will reject any such proposals regardless if they 3, 13 or 1033.

What we want is our freedom, so we will freely and democratically rule our own island, and suicide is hardly a viable alternative to freedom.