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Postby supporttheunderdog » Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:50 pm

what TC state?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Apr 17, 2011 11:50 pm

supporttheunderdog wrote:what TC state?


Under a BBF.
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Postby kurupetos » Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:25 am

Viewpoint wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:what TC state?


Under a BBF.


Forget it. We'll never accept partitionist plans.
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Postby repulsewarrior » Mon Apr 18, 2011 12:57 am

Viewpoint wrote:Will they be ok to set up business and live in the TC state?


Quote:
"That federation would comprise a federal government with a single international personality, along with a Turkish Cypriot constituent state and a Greek Cypriot constituent state, which would be of equal status."

...there may be a National Assembly to represent Turcophones that is equal to any number of National Assemblies that provide their electorates self representation as Persons, but read what we have agreed to so far: one island and one State; (at least) three governing bodies.

Cheers!

...oh and please, read my manifesto.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:06 am

supporttheunderdog wrote:
Get Real! wrote:It’s amazing that some people are actually able to discuss “opportunities to be had” under some imagined “settlement” at some point in time, the details to which they are privy! :lol:


I did say if there is a settlement: the point I was raising is to question if there are there certain vested commercial interests who may have a lot to lose and who are able to put a spanner in the works of the talks through influence.

Without defining every detail of this “settlement" all you're doing is IMAGINING the pros and cons of it!

ie: Who says there’s still going to be a “Tymbou airport” in this “settlement”?

You ASSUMED there will, so you then went on to fantasize the pros and cons of it! :lol:

Same goes for every other aspect discussed of this utopia...
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Re: What a weird suggestion?

Postby Sotos » Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:12 am

cymart wrote:So according to Sotos,the government here supports my personal interests and not those of the majority?I suppose I should be flattered that I have become so important........but leaving those weird allegations aside,it is unfortunately true that the majority of Greek-Cypriots are so fed-up with the way politicians behave that they no longer believe what they say!People here nowadays mostly care about their own interests and after seeing so many years of fruitless efforts to find a solution they have started to believe that it is impossible to find one.....with most of the media also against changing the status quo,the church leadership and virtually everyone under 40 who has never known Cyprus as being any different from the way it is now,why should they want to change it?The only people who do are mostly older refugeees who still hold-out some hope that they might be able to return to Varosha,Morphou etc. if there is a deal and a few others with vision who dare to believe in something different.....
Whether we like it or not,time solves situations in its own way and changing things involves risks which nobody here wants to take,especially when they have a relatively comfortable lifestyle the way things are now!I cannot believe that Christophias will be prepared to shoulder the responsibility either when the crunch comes during the coming months?


Are you even Cypriot?
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Re: What a weird suggestion?

Postby B25 » Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:48 pm

Sotos wrote:
cymart wrote:So according to Sotos,the government here supports my personal interests and not those of the majority?I suppose I should be flattered that I have become so important........but leaving those weird allegations aside,it is unfortunately true that the majority of Greek-Cypriots are so fed-up with the way politicians behave that they no longer believe what they say!People here nowadays mostly care about their own interests and after seeing so many years of fruitless efforts to find a solution they have started to believe that it is impossible to find one.....with most of the media also against changing the status quo,the church leadership and virtually everyone under 40 who has never known Cyprus as being any different from the way it is now,why should they want to change it?The only people who do are mostly older refugeees who still hold-out some hope that they might be able to return to Varosha,Morphou etc. if there is a deal and a few others with vision who dare to believe in something different.....
Whether we like it or not,time solves situations in its own way and changing things involves risks which nobody here wants to take,especially when they have a relatively comfortable lifestyle the way things are now!I cannot believe that Christophias will be prepared to shoulder the responsibility either when the crunch comes during the coming months?


Are you even Cypriot?


No he is not, but he is married to one.

Cymart, it is obvious people will do whats in their interest. You tell me one person who doesn't. You yourself are thinking of moving to another country if I remember correctly. Isn't that a self interest action? So why are you knocking people for wanting whats best for them.

people vote for political parties, not necessarily that they agree with everything they say, but where it suits them they will.

A settlement has not been reached for the simple reason, the Turks are making ridiculous demands that are totally unacceptable to the MAJORITY of the GCs. The Gc side has shown compromise (most of which I disagree with), but the Turks won't move. So, it is not business people pulling the strings, but Ankara.

You as a moderate, need a better sense of balance, as you mainly have only put downs for the GC side to give.
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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:11 pm

Happy75 wrote:How about all the franchises in the south T.G.I fridays Macdonalds...ect will the same people operate them in the North? If the case is yes then certain business people will actually have great interests for a solution.


The Macdonalds franchise owners Mihali, Reno and Bobi (mine and Yfreds cousins) told me that their franchise encompasses the whole of Cyprus. They also said that in the event of a re-unification they will open more and more branches. They are sure looking forward to a settlement. :lol:

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Postby denizaksulu » Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:18 pm

The bottom picture says, 'Macdonalds Grandfather is Turkish'. He means great grandfather ofcourse. The rest of the article details the genealogy of the GC population of Anglisides. What a mish/mash. :lol:
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Postby humanist » Mon Apr 18, 2011 2:33 pm

halil

wait .... still Turkey didn't use her private firms in Europe to invest in South....time will come for it as well. Than what u gonna do it for ....how can u kick out German, Uk, Holland or france based Turkish companies from EU.....


Firstly I think that you are anti unification and not the real deal that you say you are.

Secondly we have never said that if Turkey is in the EU we would not allow her to do business in Cyprus or that we would get in her way of becoming an EU member State.

However, we have also stated and the EU have clearly stated that Turkey needs to normalise her position with Cyprus and that for us as EU members are now saying we want a United Democratic Cyprus with all freedoms allowed for other EU citizens by other EU States.

We want no guarantees because we are grown up now and we want no Turkish or British troops on the Island for the long hall.

On an enlightened point of view even BBF represents separation and not true unity. I doubt you will ever understand that point.
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