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Postby Hermes » Sat Apr 16, 2011 7:31 pm

Viewpoint wrote:South Cyprus issue is behind France, Austria and Germany, Turkey is well aware it will never enter this Christian club but it will milk the ideology for as long and as much as it can, why dont you understand this? dont you want to to see you are being used by Turkey to keep that "EU ideology" alive stating you are the problem and not that they do not want to conform to EU directives. You have been beaten once again at your own game.


The occupation of Cyprus and the non-compliance with the Ankara Protocol is the issue that is blocking Turkey's EU accession chapters. Not that Europe is a "Christian Club". After all, why has the EU given Turkey the chance to join the club in the first place?

Trying to dress up Turkey's abject failure to proceed with its EU accession as some kind of deliberate Turkish strategy to fool foreign investors into investing in Turkey, is a bit lame, even by your standards. But you can always trust a Turk to turn a humiliating retreat into some kind of victory.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Apr 16, 2011 8:49 pm

Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:South Cyprus issue is behind France, Austria and Germany, Turkey is well aware it will never enter this Christian club but it will milk the ideology for as long and as much as it can, why dont you understand this? dont you want to to see you are being used by Turkey to keep that "EU ideology" alive stating you are the problem and not that they do not want to conform to EU directives. You have been beaten once again at your own game.


The occupation of Cyprus and the non-compliance with the Ankara Protocol is the issue that is blocking Turkey's EU accession chapters. Not that Europe is a "Christian Club". After all, why has the EU given Turkey the chance to join the club in the first place?

Trying to dress up Turkey's abject failure to proceed with its EU accession as some kind of deliberate Turkish strategy to fool foreign investors into investing in Turkey, is a bit lame, even by your standards. But you can always trust a Turk to turn a humiliating retreat into some kind of victory.


Let me try and simplify it for you.

Does Turkey look like a country that's is in any rush to enter the EU? a country that wants to enter the EU abides by the rules by not doing so you have your answer.
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Postby Hermes » Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:12 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Let me try and simplify it for you.

Does Turkey look like a country that's is in any rush to enter the EU? a country that wants to enter the EU abides by the rules by not doing so you have your answer.


And the reason it can't abide by the rules is because it occupies Cyprus. If there was no occupation of Cyprus there would be no freezing of accession chapters and Turkey would be on its accession path. But the majority of chapters are closed because of Cyprus. So Turkey has no choice but to be in the slow lane.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:15 pm

Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Let me try and simplify it for you.

Does Turkey look like a country that's is in any rush to enter the EU? a country that wants to enter the EU abides by the rules by not doing so you have your answer.


And the reason it can't abide by the rules is because it occupies Cyprus. If there was no occupation of Cyprus there would be no freezing of accession chapters and Turkey would be on its accession path. But the majority of chapters are closed because of Cyprus. So Turkey has no choice but to be in the slow lane.


Let me make it even more simple as you are having problems understanding.

If it wanted to enter the EU it would solve Cyprus or adopt the Ankara protocol.....but it doesn't or is in no rush to do so. Does that look like a country desperate to enter the EU?
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Postby Hermes » Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:30 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Let me try and simplify it for you.

Does Turkey look like a country that's is in any rush to enter the EU? a country that wants to enter the EU abides by the rules by not doing so you have your answer.


And the reason it can't abide by the rules is because it occupies Cyprus. If there was no occupation of Cyprus there would be no freezing of accession chapters and Turkey would be on its accession path. But the majority of chapters are closed because of Cyprus. So Turkey has no choice but to be in the slow lane.


Let me make it even more simple as you are having problems understanding.

If it wanted to enter the EU it would solve Cyprus or adopt the Ankara protocol.....but it doesn't or is in no rush to do so. Does that look like a country desperate to enter the EU?


It looks like a country that would like to join the EU but has screwed its chances because it occupies an EU member state which holds a veto over its accession. Turkey is now a country that is having to weigh up where its long-term economic and strategic interests lie. Holding onto northern Cyprus will not come without a cost: economically, politically and diplomatically. But that's something Turkey's leaders will have to face up to.
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Postby ZoC » Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:35 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Let me try and simplify it for you.

Does Turkey look like a country that's is in any rush to enter the EU? a country that wants to enter the EU abides by the rules by not doing so you have your answer.


And the reason it can't abide by the rules is because it occupies Cyprus. If there was no occupation of Cyprus there would be no freezing of accession chapters and Turkey would be on its accession path. But the majority of chapters are closed because of Cyprus. So Turkey has no choice but to be in the slow lane.


Let me make it even more simple as you are having problems understanding.

If it wanted to enter the EU it would solve Cyprus or adopt the Ankara protocol.....


at last, dick-for-brains admits that it's turkey that stands in the way of a solution.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:39 pm

Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Let me try and simplify it for you.

Does Turkey look like a country that's is in any rush to enter the EU? a country that wants to enter the EU abides by the rules by not doing so you have your answer.


And the reason it can't abide by the rules is because it occupies Cyprus. If there was no occupation of Cyprus there would be no freezing of accession chapters and Turkey would be on its accession path. But the majority of chapters are closed because of Cyprus. So Turkey has no choice but to be in the slow lane.


Let me make it even more simple as you are having problems understanding.

If it wanted to enter the EU it would solve Cyprus or adopt the Ankara protocol.....but it doesn't or is in no rush to do so. Does that look like a country desperate to enter the EU?


It looks like a country that would like to join the EU but has screwed its chances because it occupies an EU member state which holds a veto over its accession. Turkey is now a country that is having to weigh up where its long-term economic and strategic interests lie. Holding onto northern Cyprus will not come without a cost: economically, politically and diplomatically. But that's something Turkey's leaders will have to face up to.


Do you recall what Turkey stated if they are forced to choose?
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Postby ZoC » Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:49 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Let me try and simplify it for you.

Does Turkey look like a country that's is in any rush to enter the EU? a country that wants to enter the EU abides by the rules by not doing so you have your answer.


And the reason it can't abide by the rules is because it occupies Cyprus. If there was no occupation of Cyprus there would be no freezing of accession chapters and Turkey would be on its accession path. But the majority of chapters are closed because of Cyprus. So Turkey has no choice but to be in the slow lane.


Let me make it even more simple as you are having problems understanding.

If it wanted to enter the EU it would solve Cyprus or adopt the Ankara protocol.....but it doesn't or is in no rush to do so. Does that look like a country desperate to enter the EU?


It looks like a country that would like to join the EU but has screwed its chances because it occupies an EU member state which holds a veto over its accession. Turkey is now a country that is having to weigh up where its long-term economic and strategic interests lie. Holding onto northern Cyprus will not come without a cost: economically, politically and diplomatically. But that's something Turkey's leaders will have to face up to.


Do you recall what Turkey stated if they are forced to choose?


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Postby AEKTZIS » Sat Apr 16, 2011 9:57 pm

ZoC totally true, and the Elladites admire us for it. Greek government is run by a bunch of total pussies with no backbone to challenge turkey's Casus Belli - forcing them to set their national water borders at 6 nm of land.....12 nm means you "go to war with Turkey".

They admire us and our non-acceptance of all the turkish bullying and bullshit we have had to withstand - especially on the latest topic of energy resources found off Cyprus. No turk hands on those, thanks.
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Postby ZoC » Sat Apr 16, 2011 10:06 pm

AEKTZIS wrote:ZoC totally true, and the Elladites admire us for it. Greek government is run by a bunch of total pussies with no backbone to challenge turkey's Casus Belli - forcing them to set their national water borders at 6 nm of land.....12 nm means you "go to war with Turkey".

They admire us and our non-acceptance of all the turkish bullying and bullshit we have had to withstand - especially on the latest topic of energy resources found off Cyprus. No turk hands on those, thanks.


if i was a greek i'd aspire to be cypriot. :wink:
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