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EU Says Treaty of Guarantee Invalid

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Postby Jerry » Thu Apr 14, 2011 6:55 pm

boulio wrote:may i ask cypriots from both communities what they would say if cyprus would enter Nato since we see the treaty of guarantee is worthless.Also one of the two sba become a euro/nato base(limited in size to current)with greek/turkish and other nato troops.

Would that calm the t/c fears?

Basically t/c partitcipation in there own defence as well.


NATO base but without Brits, Yanks, Turks or Greeks.

Better still no base at all.
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:04 pm

boulio wrote:may i ask cypriots from both communities what they would say if cyprus would enter Nato since we see the treaty of guarantee is worthless.Also one of the two sba become a euro/nato base(limited in size to current)with greek/turkish and other nato troops.

Would that calm the t/c fears?

Basically t/c partitcipation in there own defence as well.


My understanding of part of the Cyprob, is that GCs do not want NATO in Cyprus for the very reason that will allow Turkey in. Will this attitude change?
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Postby boulio » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:17 pm

well deniz that all depends on turkey as well,if she treats cypriots(g/c and t/c)as partners within the alliance and eventually within the EU then i dont see a problem.
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Postby halil » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:19 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
halil wrote:IF THE TURKISH CYPRIOTS GIVES THE CHANCE TO EU ......they have no words to say about TC'S....upto now they didn't get our WILL...........

NEVER UNDERESTIMATE TURKISH CYPRIOTS factor ................... We are also holding the key in our hands..........


Oh Gawd... another one... :cry:

Look mate we don't want to even think about what you're holding in your hand...

The thread's about the resolution following legal advice from a committee of PACE of the Council Of Europe that The Treaty of Guarantee is null and void and also questioning the legality of the GB "sovereign" bases.

IT"S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE EU.... let me say again TURKEY IS IN THE COUNCIL OF EUROPE.


Who cares if it is advice or not BillyBoy...... we have something to say always....without TC's will everything they says is NULL....very simple !!!!

I don't care where it is Turkey as well ..... our will and requesting is very important for us not what EU or others are advising. In here agin u are all trying to underestimate TC's factor again....your bigger mistake always is what ever Turkey says we can except thats what u are thinking Billy Willy boy.... u are wrong agin mate.... we will say the last word.....
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:54 pm

So do you GCs think you can force a solution on TCs without Turkeys guarantee?
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Postby B25 » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:54 pm

halil wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
halil wrote:IF THE TURKISH CYPRIOTS GIVES THE CHANCE TO EU ......they have no words to say about TC'S....upto now they didn't get our WILL...........

NEVER UNDERESTIMATE TURKISH CYPRIOTS factor ................... We are also holding the key in our hands..........


Oh Gawd... another one... :cry:

Look mate we don't want to even think about what you're holding in your hand...

The thread's about the resolution following legal advice from a committee of PACE of the Council Of Europe that The Treaty of Guarantee is null and void and also questioning the legality of the GB "sovereign" bases.

IT"S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE EU.... let me say again TURKEY IS IN THE COUNCIL OF EUROPE.


Who cares if it is advice or not BillyBoy...... we have something to say always....without TC's will everything they says is NULL....very simple !!!!

I don't care where it is Turkey as well ..... our will and requesting is very important for us not what EU or others are advising. In here agin u are all trying to underestimate TC's factor again....your bigger mistake always is what ever Turkey says we can except thats what u are thinking Billy Willy boy.... u are wrong agin mate.... we will say the last word.....


Yes, your last word would be BYE! When you leave. Oh and do close the door on your way out, thanks.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Apr 14, 2011 7:57 pm

I know this will make you ill but we aint going anywhere.
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Postby bill cobbett » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:01 pm

halil wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
halil wrote:IF THE TURKISH CYPRIOTS GIVES THE CHANCE TO EU ......they have no words to say about TC'S....upto now they didn't get our WILL...........

NEVER UNDERESTIMATE TURKISH CYPRIOTS factor ................... We are also holding the key in our hands..........


Oh Gawd... another one... :cry:

Look mate we don't want to even think about what you're holding in your hand...

The thread's about the resolution following legal advice from a committee of PACE of the Council Of Europe that The Treaty of Guarantee is null and void and also questioning the legality of the GB "sovereign" bases.

IT"S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE EU.... let me say again TURKEY IS IN THE COUNCIL OF EUROPE.


Who cares if it is advice or not BillyBoy...... we have something to say always....without TC's will everything they says is NULL....very simple !!!!

I don't care where it is Turkey as well ..... our will and requesting is very important for us not what EU or others are advising. In here agin u are all trying to underestimate TC's factor again....your bigger mistake always is what ever Turkey says we can except thats what u are thinking Billy Willy boy.... u are wrong agin mate.... we will say the last word.....


... so as you insist on your Partitionist Maximalist Having The Last Word Position, and don't care what the EU and others are advising, in particular, given the thread, the Null and Void Treaty of Guarantee, are you supporting walking away from the Negotiations ???
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Postby boulio » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:10 pm

... so as you insist on your Partitionist Maximalist Having The Last Word Position, and don't care what the EU and others are advising, in particular, given the thread, the Null and Void Treaty of Guarantee, are you supporting walking away from the Negotiations ???


thats why a new security system needs to be implemented that is acceptable to both communities.
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Postby halil » Thu Apr 14, 2011 8:37 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
halil wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
halil wrote:IF THE TURKISH CYPRIOTS GIVES THE CHANCE TO EU ......they have no words to say about TC'S....upto now they didn't get our WILL...........

NEVER UNDERESTIMATE TURKISH CYPRIOTS factor ................... We are also holding the key in our hands..........


Oh Gawd... another one... :cry:

Look mate we don't want to even think about what you're holding in your hand...

The thread's about the resolution following legal advice from a committee of PACE of the Council Of Europe that The Treaty of Guarantee is null and void and also questioning the legality of the GB "sovereign" bases.

IT"S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE EU.... let me say again TURKEY IS IN THE COUNCIL OF EUROPE.


Who cares if it is advice or not BillyBoy...... we have something to say always....without TC's will everything they says is NULL....very simple !!!!

I don't care where it is Turkey as well ..... our will and requesting is very important for us not what EU or others are advising. In here agin u are all trying to underestimate TC's factor again....your bigger mistake always is what ever Turkey says we can except thats what u are thinking Billy Willy boy.... u are wrong agin mate.... we will say the last word.....


... so as you insist on your Partitionist Maximalist Having The Last Word Position, and don't care what the EU and others are advising, in particular, given the thread, the Null and Void Treaty of Guarantee, are you supporting walking away from the Negotiations ???


We will not walkaway from the table re Billy willy boy.....and i don't support to walk away...if u want u can...... our thesis are all well knowing...no need to repeat again.
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