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Postby DTA » Sun Apr 10, 2011 3:56 am

Now I am not for the opening of maras by the trnc but in theory what would happen if the land was indeed owned by the vakif foundation? what would the Gcs do?
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Postby boulio » Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:18 am

Please dont bring up the vakif for the milion time it was settled by the british when the gave 1.5 million pounds to the t/c community in 1959 for the sake of the new country of cyprus to start.
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Postby boulio » Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:22 am

more turkish commentary but mr.kanali ofcourse blames the g/c for every that has happened to the t/c community:

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2011-04-08
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Postby DTA » Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:31 am

boulio wrote:Please dont bring up the vakif for the milion time it was settled by the british when the gave 1.5 million pounds to the t/c community in 1959 for the sake of the new country of cyprus to start.


Look for the Hundreth time of posting this on this forum...... YOU CAN NOT SELL VAKIF LAND>>>> and this a international recognised agreement........

AND IF ANYONE HAS BROUGHT/BEEN GIVEN VAKIF LAND THEN IT IS THE EQUIVLANT OF YOU BUYING A STOLEN CAR >>>>>>>>>> IE YOU DO NOT OWN IT/
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:38 am

DTA wrote:
boulio wrote:Please dont bring up the vakif for the milion time it was settled by the british when the gave 1.5 million pounds to the t/c community in 1959 for the sake of the new country of cyprus to start.


Look for the Hundreth time of posting this on this forum...... YOU CAN NOT SELL VAKIF LAND>>>> and this a international recognised agreement........

AND IF ANYONE HAS BROUGHT/BEEN GIVEN VAKIF LAND THEN IT IS THE EQUIVLANT OF YOU BUYING A STOLEN CAR >>>>>>>>>> IE YOU DO NOT OWN IT/

I've lost count how many times I've squashed this Vakif bollocks with CREDIBLE EVIDENCE yet there's always a Turkish idiot who will come along and bring it up! :roll:
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Postby DTA » Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:02 am

Get Real! wrote:
DTA wrote:
boulio wrote:Please dont bring up the vakif for the milion time it was settled by the british when the gave 1.5 million pounds to the t/c community in 1959 for the sake of the new country of cyprus to start.


Look for the Hundreth time of posting this on this forum...... YOU CAN NOT SELL VAKIF LAND>>>> and this a international recognised agreement........

AND IF ANYONE HAS BROUGHT/BEEN GIVEN VAKIF LAND THEN IT IS THE EQUIVLANT OF YOU BUYING A STOLEN CAR >>>>>>>>>> IE YOU DO NOT OWN IT/

I've lost count how many times I've squashed this Vakif bollocks with CREDIBLE EVIDENCE yet there's always a Turkish idiot who will come along and bring it up! :roll:


NO you think or like to express the opinion that you have squashed it. Show me, and everyone else where in international law, it says that Vakif land can be sold>>>>>>> BECAUSE IT CANT. if you brought Vakif land off Dentash or anyone else then all you have done is have brought a stolen car off of him.... YOU DO NOT OWN IT. you have as much rights....... in fact less (because of the ECHRs ruling) as those that you call the carpet bagers.

If though you have proof that maras has never been owened by the the vakif foundation ever (because it cant be sold ------ BY INTENATIONAL AGREEMENT) then, my apologies.

So put Up or....
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Postby DTA » Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:16 am

AND THAT IS A STRAIGHT UP CHALLENGE>>>>>>>BUT MAKE SURE YOU YOU HAVE READ WHAT I HAVE SAID AND DONT POST IRRELIVANT SHIT.
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Postby boulio » Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:00 am

DTA ITS BEEN BROUGHT as a legal argeument before the echr and been thrown out.You say it cant be sold because its vakif land?

I dont want to sound arrogant but really who cares?The turks bring this issue of vakif land up as though The rule of law and ownership of a religious trust started with the ottomans?When the crusaders and the venetians owned cyprus and the byzantines do you think there were not religious trust in the form of churches and monistaries that owned land in cyprus?they are not recognized especially as conquest they were formed.
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Postby DT. » Sun Apr 10, 2011 6:16 am

DTA wrote:
boulio wrote:Please dont bring up the vakif for the milion time it was settled by the british when the gave 1.5 million pounds to the t/c community in 1959 for the sake of the new country of cyprus to start.


Look for the Hundreth time of posting this on this forum...... YOU CAN NOT SELL VAKIF LAND>>>> and this a international recognised agreement........

AND IF ANYONE HAS BROUGHT/BEEN GIVEN VAKIF LAND THEN IT IS THE EQUIVLANT OF YOU BUYING A STOLEN CAR >>>>>>>>>> IE YOU DO NOT OWN IT/


Of course you can sell vakif land. I know people that have been buying vakif land in Turkey.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:12 pm

DTA wrote:Show me, and everyone else where in international law, it says that Vakif land can be sold>>>>>>> BECAUSE IT CANT.

International law? :lol: You're fucking immature or just plain uneducated!

An introduction to EVKAF for Insan...
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus26880.html


The real law...

5.7 The Immovable Property (Tenure, Registration and Valuation) Law

This law was enacted in 1946, replacing the Ottoman Land Law prevailing until then. It is considered to be A to Z of immovable property in Cyprus, dealing with all matters concerning the tenure, registration, disposition and valuation of immovable property, within the framework of the Land Registry system of Cyprus, which comprises all the works and means by which immovable property is technically defined and drawn, legally recognised, secured and financially valued.

The Land Registry system of Cyprus is unique, in that by its function the history of each piece of land is traced back to the date of the General Survey. The rights in land are defined and secured and all transactions relating to immovable property are safe and protected.

Cyprus is one of the 4 or 5 countries in the world which maintain such an accurate and effective Land Registry system. Moreover, with the completion of the computerisation of all its services, it is expected that the services will not only be upgraded but also accelerated.

According to this law Aimmovable property@ means:

(a) any land;

(b) buildings and other erections, structures or fixtures affixed to any land or to any building or other erection or structure;

(c ) trees, vines and any other thing whatsoever planted or growing upon any land and any produce thereof before severance;

(d) springs, wells, water and water rights whether held together with, or independently, of any land;

(e) privileges, liberties, easements and any other rights and advantages whatsoever appertaining or reputed to appertain to any land or to any building or other erection or structure;

(f) an undivided share in any property hereinbefore set out.


AMovable property@ includes anything not constituting immovable property.

Section 40 of the law provides that ownership of immovable property or rights in immovable property can only be acquired by registration at the Land Registry, through the proper procedure described in the law and that such registration may only be effected by the registered owner of the property.

http://www.neocleous.biz/en/download/busop_property.htm
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