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[Hermes]

Turkish and Turkish Cypriot leaders insist that austerity measures are vital for the north, which is currently languishing with €3 billion worth of debt to Turkey and private banks.

Is the "trnc" ever going to pay off this debt? What is the procedure for an unrecognised state going bankrupt? If the "trnc" doesn't exist, is it a case of Turkey owing money to itself? Or is Turkey just pissing money down the "trnc" toilet?

[boulio]

im sure if there was a solution the t/c would say we only own 18% of that debt not 50/50 the roc owes the rest

[boulio]

stand corrected i had said the t/c next protest would be in june but instead its for 04/24(easter sunday) talat and dektsh parties orginizing it:

http://pdf.politis-news.com/pdf/pdf?-A= ... ffullpaper

[Viewpoint]

Turkish and Turkish Cypriot leaders insist that austerity measures are vital for the north, which is currently languishing with €3 billion worth of debt to Turkey and private banks.

Is the "trnc" ever going to pay off this debt? What is the procedure for an unrecognised state going bankrupt? If the "trnc" doesn't exist, is it a case of Turkey owing money to itself? Or is Turkey just pissing money down the "trnc" toilet?

Exactly the financial support provided by Turkey will never be repaid as it is money spent as it does anywhere in Turkey, arent you people the ones who constantly remind us that we are part of Turkey so you should be able to workout that these funds are never gong to be paid back.

[repulsewarrior]

dearest erolz, the fight continues regardless.

few are the writers, remember there are readers, and amongst the chaf and the flotsam is goodness, look for it and not the waste.

charity is needed, so too grace; acts not words.

welcome, and see you there.

...its is nice to see the Cyprus flag in this revolt a positive symbol, if we believe in equality as a rallying point.

sadly, (call me a cynic) if this continues, we'll see what Cypriot means when another Cypriot is martyred for the red fllag
; and they're not "Greek"...

if Turkey cannot provide rational dialog which identifies the existence of a State on this island undivided, they will not find a manner to emulate toward their own internal problems. This is key toward defining Bizonal and Bicommunal.

Quote:
"That federation would comprise a federal government with a single international personality, along with a Turkish Cypriot constituent state and a Greek Cypriot constituent state, which would be of equal status."

...i repeat, this is what we have agreed to; count them, three governing bodies (at least).

please, read my manifesto...

[humanist]

Birk

his meeting/march was the true indication of the strength of the Jasmine movement,led by Afrika newspaper and Sener Levent...And as long as the RoC keeps sitting on their hands,and the GC fanatics here and elsewhere wring their hands with glee at the discomfort of the TCs,this movement is destined to fail...When you lot begin to understand the position your bloodyminded approach to the TCs has placed them,in the past and the present,there might be some light at the end of the tunnel...If all you'll do is laugh,insult, and ridicule the TC aspirations to be taken seriously as equal partners in the True RoC,more doom and gloom are awaiting Cyprus around the corner...

Birk I agree that the TC's faced discrimination in the 50's and 60's the 70's saw destruction of the GC, community in many different ways by the third Country, namely Turkey.

The minute the TC" s agree to a democratic solution or a BBF like Canada with its own states/ provinces? There will be no Greek speaking Cypriot who will not be breaking some EU law and hence face the consequences. The EU will not allow for a minority group to be discriminated against. Not only will the TC's have the same rights and opportunities (even to run for presidency under one person one one vote). They will have the same rights the Turks of Britain/ and Germany have.

Really it is this simple the rest is about Eroglu and others with power aspirations that prevent a peaceful united Cyprus.

The second point as you may live in Australia the only form of political equality is one person one vote, same right s for all. The TC community stated clearly they do not wish this form of a democracy.

All their proposals for BBF deny the vast population of Cyprus namely the Greek speaking population their human rights. That is not political equality.

[BirKibrisli]

Birk

his meeting/march was the true indication of the strength of the Jasmine movement,led by Afrika newspaper and Sener Levent...And as long as the RoC keeps sitting on their hands,and the GC fanatics here and elsewhere wring their hands with glee at the discomfort of the TCs,this movement is destined to fail...When you lot begin to understand the position your bloodyminded approach to the TCs has placed them,in the past and the present,there might be some light at the end of the tunnel...If all you'll do is laugh,insult, and ridicule the TC aspirations to be taken seriously as equal partners in the True RoC,more doom and gloom are awaiting Cyprus around the corner...

Birk I agree that the TC's faced discrimination in the 50's and 60's the 70's saw destruction of the GC, community in many different ways by the third Country, namely Turkey.

The minute the TC" s agree to a democratic solution or a BBF like Canada with its own states/ provinces? There will be no Greek speaking Cypriot who will not be breaking some EU law and hence face the consequences. The EU will not allow for a minority group to be discriminated against. Not only will the TC's have the same rights and opportunities (even to run for presidency under one person one one vote). They will have the same rights the Turks of Britain/ and Germany have.

Really it is this simple the rest is about Eroglu and others with power aspirations that prevent a peaceful united Cyprus.

The second point as you may live in Australia the only form of political equality is one person one vote, same right s for all. The TC community stated clearly they do not wish this form of a democracy.

All their proposals for BBF deny the vast population of Cyprus namely the Greek speaking population their human rights. That is not political equality.

Dear Andreas,

A Unitary state with full democracy and human rights is my prefered choice as well...But realistically we cannot get there from where we are now...That is my whole point...50 years is like yesterday in historical terms...We cannot just sweep everything under the carpet,and carry on as if nothing has happened...I have always acknowledged the pain and suffering of the GC community as a result of the 74 invasion/intervention by Turkey...And I know from personal experience the pain and suffering of the TC community during the 50s and 60s...Most GC forumer here are in total denial of the TC plight between 63-74 period...Considering that the GCs had the sole political and economic power since 63,the failure to come to terms with the past is largely due to them...The brainwashing of the population ,and the underhanded ways the RoC has tried to score political points internationally against the TCs and Turkey has created a great chism of mistrust between the 2 communities...This will have to be addressed before any lasting and fair solution can be found...Otherwise it will be 1960 all over again,a bandaid solution to allow the two sides to conspire against each other yet again...The TC community cannot afford to take that risk while there is only blame,and ridicule,and insults coming their way from the South...It is common sense,which is not very common in Cyprus...

[ZoC]

Most GC forumer here are in total denial of the TC plight between 63-74 period...

no, i think u'll find most weren't around, and even less were responsible.

[Paphitis]

Most GC forumer here are in total denial of the TC plight between 63-74 period...

no, i think u'll find most weren't around, and and even less were responsible.

Some however have confessed to being a part of the TMT group!

[Viewpoint]

Tit for tat mentality continues.