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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:50 pm

boulio wrote:
You dont wish to live under a TC admin but want to force us to live under a GC admin, surely people should be given the choice.








when did i say that,im for a federal system in cyprus but one that functions not a confederal model that the turks advocate.


You may not be saying this but the majority of GCs are.
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Postby DTA » Tue Apr 12, 2011 3:10 am

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boulio wrote:fo what to declare 12 miles and there aoz,from a legal and military point of view the are within there rights and have the means to defend there claims.from a political point of view i believe there politicians are weak.


Boulio you are smart and you know this is a gray area because if this was to happen the some of the greek islands 12 mile zone would extend in to Turkeys mainland. You also know that Turkey would never ever except this, so why in any reasonable thinking would greece do this? would it not be in both countries best interests to reach a mutually exeptable understanding and then exploit the natural resources their in a joint way rather than both countries not being able to access them?


The International Law of the Sea is very clear. It gives Greece the right to extend its maritime borders out to 12nms where possible or out to the medium point (middle) of any passage whereby there is not enough room to do so. Therefore, if a passage is 6nms wide, then Greece can extend to 3nms and Turkey to 3nms.


I really should not have posted on a subject I did not know much about.

So is the share just about the amounts of islands that claims ownership to (uninhabited islands?
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Postby DT. » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:14 am

DTA wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DTA wrote:
boulio wrote:fo what to declare 12 miles and there aoz,from a legal and military point of view the are within there rights and have the means to defend there claims.from a political point of view i believe there politicians are weak.


Boulio you are smart and you know this is a gray area because if this was to happen the some of the greek islands 12 mile zone would extend in to Turkeys mainland. You also know that Turkey would never ever except this, so why in any reasonable thinking would greece do this? would it not be in both countries best interests to reach a mutually exeptable understanding and then exploit the natural resources their in a joint way rather than both countries not being able to access them?


The International Law of the Sea is very clear. It gives Greece the right to extend its maritime borders out to 12nms where possible or out to the medium point (middle) of any passage whereby there is not enough room to do so. Therefore, if a passage is 6nms wide, then Greece can extend to 3nms and Turkey to 3nms.


I really should not have posted on a subject I did not know much about.

So is the share just about the amounts of islands that claims ownership to (uninhabited islands?


No the issue is that with 12 miles it makes it very difficult to sail out onto the Aegean and encounter any international waters. Mst of it would be Greek.
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Postby quattro » Tue Apr 12, 2011 6:40 am

DT. wrote:
DTA wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
DTA wrote:
boulio wrote:fo what to declare 12 miles and there aoz,from a legal and military point of view the are within there rights and have the means to defend there claims.from a political point of view i believe there politicians are weak.


Boulio you are smart and you know this is a gray area because if this was to happen the some of the greek islands 12 mile zone would extend in to Turkeys mainland. You also know that Turkey would never ever except this, so why in any reasonable thinking would greece do this? would it not be in both countries best interests to reach a mutually exeptable understanding and then exploit the natural resources their in a joint way rather than both countries not being able to access them?


The International Law of the Sea is very clear. It gives Greece the right to extend its maritime borders out to 12nms where possible or out to the medium point (middle) of any passage whereby there is not enough room to do so. Therefore, if a passage is 6nms wide, then Greece can extend to 3nms and Turkey to 3nms.


I really should not have posted on a subject I did not know much about.

So is the share just about the amounts of islands that claims ownership to (uninhabited islands?


No the issue is that with 12 miles it makes it very difficult to sail out onto the Aegean and encounter any international waters. Mst of it would be Greek.


Guys now in the case of EEZ can a country overlaps any country to extent her waters .........i heard that somewhere ......that TR can extent (and claim)her EZZ up to 200 miles is that possible :?: :?: :?:
Ps: dont shoot me its a question .
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Postby B25 » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:48 am

Yes, it true for Turkey, she can extand to cover the whole planet, cos she thinks she is a super power. :)
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Postby Bananiot » Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:12 am

... she has already expanded into your brain. Agnatin?
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Postby quattro » Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:02 pm

OK serious now can someone give me an answer .:0)
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Postby DT. » Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:13 pm

quattro wrote:OK serious now can someone give me an answer .:0)


Same principle with the coastal limits. EEZ extends to 200 miles, if another country is closer than 400 miles to the other then the difference is split between them :roll:

FFS people, this is common sense.
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Postby quattro » Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:19 pm

DT. wrote:
quattro wrote:OK serious now can someone give me an answer .:0)


Same principle with the coastal limits. EEZ extends to 200 miles, if another country is closer than 400 miles to the other then the difference is split between them :roll:

FFS people, this is common sense.


So my believe that TR have nothing to do south of Cyprus and west (ie kastelorizo Greece /Cyprus EEZ if they decide it ever)
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Postby DT. » Tue Apr 12, 2011 1:33 pm

quattro wrote:
DT. wrote:
quattro wrote:OK serious now can someone give me an answer .:0)


Same principle with the coastal limits. EEZ extends to 200 miles, if another country is closer than 400 miles to the other then the difference is split between them :roll:

FFS people, this is common sense.


So my believe that TR have nothing to do south of Cyprus and west (ie kastelorizo Greece /Cyprus EEZ if they decide it ever)


Turkey is claiming something different. They have not signed up to the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea along with the rest of the world claiming that there is a different set of rules for closed seas. This in effect is Turkey asking for the entire Eastern Med to fall under its EEZ.
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