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The TRNC to open up Maras.

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby boulio » Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:15 am

With no solution and Turkeys U perspective fading do you think they will give a rats tail. as for the 12 mile thing Id like to see Greece try anything in its current economically ruined state, no chance. I think I do appreciate is you concern about our security and the fact that neither side want to reside under the other admin.

But I still feel that it is better to offer it to those refugees who want to come back first and then work on the rest of the properties using an investment rental approach rather than sale or gift.


be careful what you wish for a wounded animal is always the most dangerous when greece declares her 12 miles which is not were the honey is but within her declaring here AOZ(which ofcourse the causi belli makes no mention of nice going morons did even cover the most important act in your vial threat)i would like to see how turkey is going to react.
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Postby DTA » Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:18 am

boulio wrote:
With no solution and Turkeys U perspective fading do you think they will give a rats tail. as for the 12 mile thing Id like to see Greece try anything in its current economically ruined state, no chance. I think I do appreciate is you concern about our security and the fact that neither side want to reside under the other admin.

But I still feel that it is better to offer it to those refugees who want to come back first and then work on the rest of the properties using an investment rental approach rather than sale or gift.


be careful what you wish for a wounded animal is always the most dangerous when greece declares her 12 miles which is not were the honey is but within her declaring here AOZ(which ofcourse the causi belli makes no mention of nice going morons did even cover the most important act in your vial threat)i would like to see how turkey is going to react.


Is greece really in a place to do that? and if Turkey reacted "badly what would greece do?
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Postby boulio » Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:20 am

fo what to declare 12 miles and there aoz,from a legal and military point of view the are within there rights and have the means to defend there claims.from a political point of view i believe there politicians are weak.
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Postby DTA » Sun Apr 10, 2011 4:27 am

boulio wrote:fo what to declare 12 miles and there aoz,from a legal and military point of view the are within there rights and have the means to defend there claims.from a political point of view i believe there politicians are weak.


Boulio you are smart and you know this is a gray area because if this was to happen the some of the greek islands 12 mile zone would extend in to Turkeys mainland. You also know that Turkey would never ever except this, so why in any reasonable thinking would greece do this? would it not be in both countries best interests to reach a mutually exeptable understanding and then exploit the natural resources their in a joint way rather than both countries not being able to access them?
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:20 am

DTA wrote:
boulio wrote:fo what to declare 12 miles and there aoz,from a legal and military point of view the are within there rights and have the means to defend there claims.from a political point of view i believe there politicians are weak.


Boulio you are smart and you know this is a gray area because if this was to happen the some of the greek islands 12 mile zone would extend in to Turkeys mainland. You also know that Turkey would never ever except this, so why in any reasonable thinking would greece do this? would it not be in both countries best interests to reach a mutually exeptable understanding and then exploit the natural resources their in a joint way rather than both countries not being able to access them?


The International Law of the Sea is very clear. It gives Greece the right to extend its maritime borders out to 12nms where possible or out to the medium point (middle) of any passage whereby there is not enough room to do so. Therefore, if a passage is 6nms wide, then Greece can extend to 3nms and Turkey to 3nms.
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Postby Bananiot » Sun Apr 10, 2011 7:18 am

But, you are only saying the above because you think you are ... Greek.
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Postby DT. » Sun Apr 10, 2011 9:52 am

Bananiot wrote:But, you are only saying the above because you think you are ... Greek.


No he is saying it because some people need help in understanding that when a country which is well within it's Rights, expands it's maritime border by 12 miles it will not extend it's territory into another country's mainland. :roll:

The difference is split 50/50 when they are closer than 24 miles to each other.

If I remember well from my old dissertation for my undergrad the Aegean is currently something like 50% Greek , 40% high seas and the rest is Turkish. Should the extension happen then the biggest difference will be seen in the high seas percentage where it will sharply fall in favour of Greek waters. In fact turkeys area of the Aegean will even rise a little.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Apr 10, 2011 10:09 am

boulio wrote:vp wrote:
Arent you being a full blown hypocrite?


and why is that ?



You dont wish to live under a TC admin but want to force us to live under a GC admin, surely people should be given the choice.
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Postby kurupetos » Sun Apr 10, 2011 2:29 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
boulio wrote:vp wrote:
Arent you being a full blown hypocrite?


and why is that ?



You dont wish to live under a TC admin but want to force us to live under a GC admin, surely people should be given the choice.


That's why we need a unitary state with only Cypriot admin. :wink:
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Postby boulio » Sun Apr 10, 2011 5:28 pm

You dont wish to live under a TC admin but want to force us to live under a GC admin, surely people should be given the choice.








when did i say that,im for a federal system in cyprus but one that functions not a confederal model that the turks advocate.
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