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[Nikitas]

VP in his usual arrogance said"

"TCs should go forward and open the area up for vital works to rebuild this city back to its former glory and wealth."

Former glory and wealth built entirely by GCs. Read what Thompson said of Varosi when he visted the area in 1878, it will enlighten you and your kind.

I am suprised that Bir has joined in this taunting silly game. When normally level headed people join in this type of taunting it gives justification to those that contend that the only language Turks understand is violence. I am surprised.

[Viewpoint]

What so arrogant about the idea, better to use and develop it than allow it to just sit there. We will never find a solution so the TRNC shoudl go ahead and open it up for those inhabitants that want to return and utilize those areas which are not cliamed.

[Nikitas]

The text half way down this page is telling, remember it was written in 1878!

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[Nikitas]

"Would you like to talk about the massacred unarmed TCs by fucking eoka members?"

As if the TMT were a bunch of sacred virgins! Have you not read the massacres of Afania, Palekythro, Ayios Sergios, Yialousa? Have not seen Ecevit on live TV saying that if Attila II had been accepted the Turks would not have had to kill 4500 people? What are you, some kind of dork in here to wind people up?

[Viewpoint]

So why should we not open it up for use by everyone?

[Nikitas]

VP you are being an arrogant wind up. If after 40 years your "bargaining chip" comes to this, then you are not a party worth bargaining with. You prove yourself to be a clown.

You have repeated countless times in this forum how you are not willing to live under the thumb of the GCs. But you cannot fathom the other side's equal desire not to live under your thumb. If you cannot go that far in your understanding then you need to have a long talk with yourself.

[Viewpoint]

VP you are being an arrogant wind up. If after 40 years your "bargaining chip" comes to this, then you are not a party worth bargaining with. You prove yourself to be a clown.

You have repeated countless times in this forum how you are not willing to live under the thumb of the GCs. But you cannot fathom the other side's equal desire not to live under your thumb. If you cannot go that far in your understanding then you need to have a long talk with yourself.

Thank you for proving my point....this is how we feel about living under GC admin, but that does not stop us from going right ahead and opening up this area when the current talks breakdown or after AKP wins another term in Turkey.

[Nikitas]

VP, I never doubted your point and if you look over my old posts I often said the TCs security concerns are a vital part of any solution. I expect the same empathy from the TC side precisely because they have security concerns.

What stops you from opening up the area is a clear view around the world that it is obviously a GC area, it is not needed for the TCs survival or even wealth. It can solve the displaced person problem to a large extent.

Opening up Varosi would be the single biggest miscalculation the Turkish/TC side will have made on Cyprus since 1945. If you cannot see why you are way out of touch. Turkey opening up Varosi is about equal in severity to Greece extending its territorial waters to 12 miles, it would be the perfect excuse. Even if the two are not equal in legality, it would be an internationally acceptable tit for tat. Just the kind of thing Anglo minds can understand and approve. Go ahead, do it.

[Viewpoint]

With no solution and Turkeys U perspective fading do you think they will give a rats tail. as for the 12 mile thing Id like to see Greece try anything in its current economically ruined state, no chance. I think I do appreciate is you concern about our security and the fact that neither side want to reside under the other admin.

But I still feel that it is better to offer it to those refugees who want to come back first and then work on the rest of the properties using an investment rental approach rather than sale or gift.

[boulio]

vp wrote:

Arent you being a full blown hypocrite?

and why is that ?