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Postby SKI-preo » Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:53 am

WHo gives a sh*t !!!what about my village in Kyrenia ????
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Postby boulio » Fri Apr 08, 2011 3:09 am

sorry dont take it personally i jut mentioned karpasia because its one of the only signed agreements between representitives from both sides(turks ofcourse renagded).its only hypothetical.
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Maras/Varosha returned under interim U.N. control?

Postby cymart » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:27 pm

Erdogan was going to suggest this in 2003 but Denktash and co. told him not to because they said the G.C's would grab it and then refuse to negotiate on anything else...but I think this will part of another move by Erdogan after the June election and this time,I just pray that both sides go ahead and implement it....re-opening the port under E.U. control is no problem either as it needs a lot of modernisation and upgrading.In fact the impetus and co-operation generated for both G.C's and T.C's will be tremendous and give an enormous boost towards ending the Cyprus problem!But maybe that's what some people on both sides are afraid of???
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Apr 08, 2011 5:56 pm

The port for Maras swap is not a balanced one, a more balanced one would be to have the closed town opened up under the TRNC and allow property owners to return.
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Postby ZoC » Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:05 pm

Viewpoint wrote:The port for Maras swap is not a balanced one, a more balanced one would be to have the closed town opened up under the TRNC and allow property owners to return.


wot do u know about balance? ur one of the least balanced people ever to (dis)grace the cf.
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Postby B25 » Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:09 pm

Viewpoint wrote:The port for Maras swap is not a balanced one, a more balanced one would be to have the closed town opened up under the TRNC and allow property owners to return.


Varosi, is not yours to give up, nogotiate or otherwise. You have stolen it, by brute force and we are held back by the end of your guns.

You have nothing to negotiate with, you don't even have a voice, your pay masters do. So stop trying to be cocky about what you can and can't do, we are talking direct, not to puppets. capish!
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:13 pm

B25 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The port for Maras swap is not a balanced one, a more balanced one would be to have the closed town opened up under the TRNC and allow property owners to return.


Varosi, is not yours to give up, nogotiate or otherwise. You have stolen it, by brute force and we are held back by the end of your guns.

You have nothing to negotiate with, you don't even have a voice, your pay masters do. So stop trying to be cocky about what you can and can't do, we are talking direct, not to puppets. capish!


Who controls it you fucking moron, the Turks and us work as one so we decide what happens not you, if we had no say then why do you need our permission to use it?
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..Under TRNC control??

Postby cymart » Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:14 pm

with what guarantee and paying taxes to who?This has been suggested before and is a non-starter.....there is simply not enough trust between the two sides-only a few hoteliers might be tempted by it.This is why it should be either under U.N. or E.U.control!
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Postby bill cobbett » Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:16 pm

B25 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The port for Maras swap is not a balanced one, a more balanced one would be to have the closed town opened up under the TRNC and allow property owners to return.


Varosi, is not yours to give up, nogotiate or otherwise. You have stolen it, by brute force and we are held back by the end of your guns.

You have nothing to negotiate with, you don't even have a voice, your pay masters do. So stop trying to be cocky about what you can and can't do, we are talking direct, not to puppets. capish!


... and VP is reneging, as ever, on a deal.

This is point no.5 of the 1979 High Level Agreement...

5. Priority will be given to reaching agreement on the resettlement of Varosha under United Nations auspices simultaneously with the beginning of the consideration by the interlocutors of the constitutional and territorial aspects of a canprehensive settlement. After agreement on Varosha has been reached, it will be implemented without waiting the outcome of the discussion on other aspects of the Cyprus problem.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Apr 08, 2011 6:24 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
B25 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:The port for Maras swap is not a balanced one, a more balanced one would be to have the closed town opened up under the TRNC and allow property owners to return.


Varosi, is not yours to give up, nogotiate or otherwise. You have stolen it, by brute force and we are held back by the end of your guns.

You have nothing to negotiate with, you don't even have a voice, your pay masters do. So stop trying to be cocky about what you can and can't do, we are talking direct, not to puppets. capish!


... and VP is reneging, as ever, on a deal.

This is point no.5 of the 1979 High Level Agreement...

5. Priority will be given to reaching agreement on the resettlement of Varosha under United Nations auspices simultaneously with the beginning of the consideration by the interlocutors of the constitutional and territorial aspects of a canprehensive settlement. After agreement on Varosha has been reached, it will be implemented without waiting the outcome of the discussion on other aspects of the Cyprus problem.


Can you give us full details of the other points and when they were put in effect?
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