by kurupetos » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:37 pm
humanist wrote:Of course they can. Nobody says otherwise. What is not right, it's the effort by some forumers to deprimand GCs from their Hellenic roots.
We, the GCs, are Hellenes in ethnicity, and Cypriots in citizenship. Equivalently TCs, are Turks in ethnicity, and Cypriots in citizenship.
I absolutely agree. Your response sums it up nicely.
Admin pls close thread .......... heheheheheheheh
by kurupetos » Thu Apr 07, 2011 1:38 pm
repulsewarrior wrote:kurupetos wrote:With stupidity like the above, you can end up homeless in Canada.
...that's right, don't count on me, i am neither "Greek" or "Turk", i come from a "mixed" village. we did not run away when others fled, we stayed because we are Cypriots, many are missing; homeless indeed, because of the Intolerance that has no expression but a hypocritical exclusivity, to have a threat from another side like plunderers.
if you are proud of being Greek or Turk, that is good if as Cypriots we demonstrate a Humanity that can respect the value of their sustenance.
by EPSILON » Thu Apr 07, 2011 4:09 pm
quattro wrote:Unlike people from other nations, the majority of our compatriots – those of the Orthodox Christian persuasion – seem to prefer to be considered ‘Greek’ or ‘Greek Cypriot’, as opposed to simply ‘Cypriot’. (Though in their own language they would proudly declare themselves ‘Gibrei’.)
We think there are a number of reasons for this need to be Greek.
First, security and identity. After centuries of foreign oppression, Cypriots have understandably wanted to affirm an attachment to what they perceive to be a greater, more glorious, stronger grouping. Now of course, at long last, we are attached to a wider community, where Cypriots – of all persuasions – can be European.
Then there’s religion. But it should be noted that the Church of Cyprus, like that of Russia, is actually autocephalous within the family of Orthodox Churches. Indeed Cyprus was the first Roman province to convert to Christianity.
What about language? After all, most of us speak Greek (or something akin to it). But do Americans regard themselves as English? Do Austrians want to be seen as Germans? And weren’t all Cypriots happy to speak the principal vernacular of Cyprus before division took root?
How about culture? But if we’re honest there’s little to distinguish traditional ‘Greek Cypriot’ and ‘Turkish Cypriot’ culture and values. (OK, one group may eat less pork for religious reasons, but then some people ‘go the whole hog’ these days and become vegetarians!)
Ethnicity? This is almost certainly wrong on genetic grounds. The frequent appeals to both communities for bone marrow donors show Cypriots share more genes with each other than with the populations of either Greece or Turkey. We look the same, for goodness sake!
History? But which history do we go for? Cyprus has been inhabited for over 9,000 years and has been occupied by almost every significant power in the region and beyond. The island hasn’t been part of a Greek state for the best part of a thousand years – that’s if you count the Byzantine Empire, which at the time described itself as Roman. Perhaps it’s time to move on and be ourselves.
Finally, we come to nationalism – a need to emphasise our supposed difference from Cypriots with a Muslim background. But doesn’t needing to be ‘Greek’ cause our Muslim compatriots to need to be ‘Turkish’? And if some of us must look to Greece, aren’t others forced to look to Turkey? But what if we were both simply ‘Cypriot’ and looked to Europe and the world?
Will we ever learn that only the need to be Cypriot can truly unite us and our homeland? And isn’t unity what we all want?
There. By now, people on both sides are probably upset. Unless perhaps, like us, they’re on the Cypriot side.
by AEKTZIS » Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:03 am
by humanist » Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:08 am
by AEKTZIS » Sun Apr 10, 2011 12:13 am
by Klik » Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:56 pm
quattro wrote:Unlike people from other nations, the majority of our compatriots – those of the Orthodox Christian persuasion – seem to prefer to be considered ‘Greek’ or ‘Greek Cypriot’, as opposed to simply ‘Cypriot’. (Though in their own language they would proudly declare themselves ‘Gibrei’.)
by quattro » Thu Apr 21, 2011 10:06 pm
Klik wrote:quattro wrote:Unlike people from other nations, the majority of our compatriots – those of the Orthodox Christian persuasion – seem to prefer to be considered ‘Greek’ or ‘Greek Cypriot’, as opposed to simply ‘Cypriot’. (Though in their own language they would proudly declare themselves ‘Gibrei’.)
The term "Greek Cypriot" is just a British plot to DIVIDE & RULE the island of Cyprus.
As you said, Cypriots(ie Greeks of Cyprus) call themselves CYPRIOTS!
Kipraioi + Tourjoi
where Kipraioi = Greeks, Armenians, Maronites, Latins
where Tourjoi = Turks from 1571+, Turks 1974+
End of story. Stop complicating the situation even more so that the solution(ie LIBERTY OF CYPRUS) is never reached... Then you wonder why people call the filotourkoi TRAITORS.
by ZoC » Fri Apr 22, 2011 9:42 am
AEKTZIS wrote:this entire thread is bullshit...havent been on the site in a couple months and i return to much bullshit.
What "need to be greek"....we ARE greek.
Ive got the galanoleukh flying on a flagpole proudly in my garden, 2 Greek flags in fact, and whoever doesnt like it NA GLYFEI TON POYTSO MOY
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