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[SpartanGamer]

Ethnicity? This is almost certainly wrong on genetic grounds. The frequent appeals to both communities for bone marrow donors show Cypriots share more genes with each other than with the populations of either Greece or Turkey. We look the same, for goodness sake!.

This is baloney peddled for politics and not truth. Cypriots do not "share more genes with each other than with populations from ... blah blah" because that would make Cypriots a different SPECIES! They share exactly the same genes as every other human on the planet. What you fail to understand, and "The Cypriot" fails to drop for political motives, is that MUTATIONS in haemoglobin genes can be environmentally selected for the benefit they confer (convergence) and occur in EXACTLY the same genes as every other human shares - otherwise they would be dead without these genes! And, that's without even going into the rest of this infamous, outdated "data". What is saddest is that you think you can "unite" by peddling exactly the same racist rubbish Hitler supported.

[Piratis]

Cyprus was not originally Greek and has never been a part of the current Greek State, but had Greekness forced upon it as a result of invasion and conquest, and those promoting Enosis have been brainwashed into promoting a historical imperialism and colonialism as pepetrated on the near EASTand much of the Middle east by those colonialistic imperialists, the Greeks.

Cypriots did not have their "Greekness" forced upon them. Foreigners are forcing Cypriots to deny their own ideals and sense of identity. If Cypriots are culturally connected to Hellenism, then it has bugger all to do with you or anyone else. We are a link in the Hellenic chain, have always been a link for thousands of years and we will not be forced to deny our Hellenic links by you or any other imperialists or invaders.

Get that through your thick head!

Exactly Paphitis. "Supporttheunderdog" has no evidence whatsoever to support that Greekness was forced in Cyprus, but what he is doing now is exactly trying to force us to change our identity.

What we do have evidence, is that the Angles invaded Britain in the 5th century AD (almost 2000 years after Cyprus was already Greek) and fought against the native people. And yet "Supporttheunderdog" doesn't seem to have a problem that his own country and his own people are named after these invaders. ("England" is derived from Englaland which means "the land of the Engle," that is, Angles, the Germanic tribe which invaded Britain).

And of course we also have evidence of how "Turkey" became Turkish, since this is something that happened even more recently.

The conclusion is that Cyprus is far far more Greek than anything in Britain is English or anything in Asia Minor is Turkish.

[supporttheunderdog]

So when and how did non-Greek Cyprus become Greek?

Until about 300 BC Cyprus consisted of a number of independant kingdoms, some of which were Greek Speaking, others of which were Phonecian Speaking and one of which (Amathus) was probably Eto-Cypriot speaking as late as about 300BC, when Ptolomy invaded and supressed them and the non-Greek languages.

The Greeks under Alexander the Great and his Generals were at the time the biggest imperialists going, but that was alright, they were Greek! Only the Greeks have a monopoly of Culture. And yes in the Classical period the Greeks had a wonderful culture that had a profound influence, but other places had culture too, but no Forget about the ancient culture existing in Persia and elsewhere that was supressed - it wasn't Greek- it doesn't count.

Always the same cheap insults. Anyone who was not Greek was supposedly living in caves. I think not! How racist can you get!

And you consider yourselves worthy successors of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, etc. I think not!.

What you dont like is that I am prepared to take you on and challenge your Shibolleths: I have not swallowed the Myths like you. Well read my signature! I ain't being ground down by a bunch of Cultural facist imperialists like you.

[Piratis]

So when and how did non-Greek Cyprus become Greek?

Until about 300 BC Cyprus consisted of a number of independant kingdoms, some of which were Greek Speaking, others of which were Phonecian Speaking and one of which (Amathus) was probably Eto-Cypriot speaking as late as about 300BC, when Ptolomy invaded and supressed them and the non-Greek languages.

The Greeks under Alexander the Great and his Generals were at the time the biggest imperialists going, but that was alright, they were Greek! Only the Greeks have a monopoly of Culture. And yes in the Classical period the Greeks had a wonderful culture that had a profound influence, but other places had culture too, but no Forget about the ancient culture existing in Persia and elsewhere that was supressed - it wasn't Greek- it doesn't count.

Always the same cheap insults. Anyone who was not Greek was supposedly living in caves. I think not! How racist can you get!

And you consider yourselves worthy successors of Plato, Aristotle, Socrates, etc. I think not!.

What you dont like is that I am prepared to take you on and challenge your Shibolleths: I have not swallowed the Myths like you. Well read my signature! I ain't being ground down by a bunch of Cultural facist imperialists like you.

Cyprus became Greek at about 1200BC when the Mycenaeans came and founded several Greek city Kingdoms in Cyprus.

So Cyprus became Greek about 1700 years before any part of Britain became English, since the Angles invaded Britain in the 5th century AD.

Sure, there was a minority of other peoples in Cyprus. They gradually (over several centuries) assimilated like it usually happens with small minorities. What happened to the Romans, the Vikings and several other tribes that moved to Britain over various times? Didn't they also assimilate?

Imperialists are people who invade other countries, exploit their people and impose on them their will by force. This is what YOU are.

We live in our own island, we never invaded your country, we never imposed on you our rule, we never tried to tell you what you are or what you should call your own country.

[SpartanGamer]

Some 50 Million people speak a well known Germanic language in England and 'dog' wants us to believe these are the indigenous people living there since the Ice Age Shamelessly, he disregards thousands of years of written Greek records in Cyprus, so that he can tell us Cyprus is not, nor ever was, Greek.

[humanist]

Unlike people from other nations, the majority of our compatriots – those of the Orthodox Christian persuasion – seem to prefer to be considered ‘Greek’ or ‘Greek Cypriot’, as opposed to simply ‘Cypriot’. (Though in their own language they would proudly declare themselves ‘Gibrei’.)

Not those in the inner-west of Adelaide South Australia - We are Cypriot very sure of it and NO Need to identify as Greek what so ever. Infact we think the Greeks are a bunch of tsobani with money who think they have achieved something.

[Piratis]

Some 50 Million people speak a well known Germanic language in England and 'dog' wants us to believe these are the indigenous people living there since the Ice Age Shamelessly, he disregards thousands of years of written Greek records in Cyprus, so that he can tell us Cyprus is not, nor ever was, Greek.

The Angles (English) were a Germanic tribe and they invaded Britain in the 5th century AD. The Mycenaeans (Greeks) came to Cyprus 1700 years earlier.

Therefore the English have about 1500 years of history in Britain, while Greeks in Cyprus have about 3200 years of history in Cyprus, more than twice as much.

[Viewpoint]

Some 50 Million people speak a well known Germanic language in England and 'dog' wants us to believe these are the indigenous people living there since the Ice Age Shamelessly, he disregards thousands of years of written Greek records in Cyprus, so that he can tell us Cyprus is not, nor ever was, Greek.

The Angles (English) were a Germanic tribe and they invaded Britain in the 5th century AD. The Mycenaeans (Greeks) came to Cyprus 1700 years earlier.

Therefore the English have about 1500 years of history in Britain, while Greeks in Cyprus have about 3200 years of history in Cyprus, more than twice as much.

So are they Germans or English?

[Piratis]

Some 50 Million people speak a well known Germanic language in England and 'dog' wants us to believe these are the indigenous people living there since the Ice Age Shamelessly, he disregards thousands of years of written Greek records in Cyprus, so that he can tell us Cyprus is not, nor ever was, Greek.

The Angles (English) were a Germanic tribe and they invaded Britain in the 5th century AD. The Mycenaeans (Greeks) came to Cyprus 1700 years earlier.

Therefore the English have about 1500 years of history in Britain, while Greeks in Cyprus have about 3200 years of history in Cyprus, more than twice as much.

So are they Germans or English?

The Angles (English) are Germanic.

The Germanic peoples (also called Teutonic in older literature) are a historical ethno-linguistic group, originating in Northern Europe and identified by their use of the Indo-European Germanic languages, which diversified out of Common Germanic in the course of the Pre-Roman Iron Age. The descendants of these peoples became, and in many areas contributed to, ethnic groups in North Western Europe: Scandinavians (Danes, Swedes, Norwegians, Icelanders, and Faroe Islanders, but not Finns and Sami), Germans (including Austrians, German-speaking Swiss, and ethnic Germans), Dutch, Flemish, and English, among others.

[Viewpoint]

Some 50 Million people speak a well known Germanic language in England and 'dog' wants us to believe these are the indigenous people living there since the Ice Age Shamelessly, he disregards thousands of years of written Greek records in Cyprus, so that he can tell us Cyprus is not, nor ever was, Greek.

The Angles (English) were a Germanic tribe and they invaded Britain in the 5th century AD. The Mycenaeans (Greeks) came to Cyprus 1700 years earlier.

Therefore the English have about 1500 years of history in Britain, while Greeks in Cyprus have about 3200 years of history in Cyprus, more than twice as much.

So are they Germans or English?

The Angles (English) are Germanic.

The Germanic peoples (also called Teutonic in older literature) are a historical ethno-linguistic group, originating in Northern Europe and identified by their use of the Indo-European Germanic languages, which diversified out of Common Germanic in the course of the Pre-Roman Iron Age. The descendants of these peoples became, and in many areas contributed to, ethnic groups in North Western Europe: Scandinavians (Danes, Swedes, Norwegians, Icelanders, and Faroe Islanders, but not Finns and Sami), Germans (including Austrians, German-speaking Swiss, and ethnic Germans), Dutch, Flemish, and English, among others.

So if you are still Greek then English/Angles are German...this is getting real messy.