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by **Viewpoint** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:47 pm

mem101 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
mem101 wrote:All of Cyprus is all of ours. How could anyone be happy to give up any part of it? Aside from that and the illegality and injustice of permanent partition, wouldn't it be tragic if such a small island were divided in two?

No, why would it be when the union under GC terms means our capitulation?

I never said anything about capitulation. A compromise has to be reached; a just and fair one which benefits all Cypriots in the long run. If this can't be achieved today (and I'm not saying it definitely can't), then we can hope for tomorrow. But how could you possibly hope to get the GCs to agree to permanent partition when a fair compromise is so difficult to reach? Don't forget that agreeing to permanent partition would mean the capitulation of the GCs... and the TCs - everyone loses and few gain anything.

I understand your position, viewpoint. We have been banging our heads against brick walls for a long time, but I for one will not give up hope. While some hope that waiting it out will eventually lead to victory for their "side," I believe that there will eventually be a generation with the courage and humility to compromise and end the status quo.

I respect your viewpoint but dont agree with you, with GCs who still think and promote that Cyprus is Greek therefore a Greek island we have no hope of unification, you are just kidding yourself all in the name of "hope".

Plus dont be fooled all the GC are offering is capitulation.

by **mem101** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:52 pm

I guess faith plays a part here. I would say that I am being an optimist, but that you are being a pessimist. I think a realist would simply say that the future of Cyprus is uncertain. Anything beyond that is speculation - too many variables, too chaotic a system.

by **Viewpoint** » Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:56 pm

mem101 wrote:I guess faith plays a part here. I would say that I am being an optimist, but that you are being a pessimist. I think a realist would simply say that the future of Cyprus is uncertain. Anything beyond that is speculation - too many variables, too chaotic a system.

Do you live in any part of Cyprus?

by **bill cobbett** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:05 am

Viewpoint wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
antifon wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
mem101 wrote:All of Cyprus is all of ours. How could anyone be happy to give up any part of it? Aside from that and the illegality and injustice of permanent partition, wouldn't it be tragic if such a small island were divided in two?

No, why would it be when the union under GC terms means our capitulation?

You are just about to capitulate whether you like it/not or intended it/not. All 70.000 of you. The only question is to whom!

Better the Turks than the GCs, we made our choice a long time ago.

If may remind everyone especially the very short-sighted VP whose memory also seems to be growing increasingly deficient...

Some 50,000 CYs living under the Turkish Oppression love Turkey so much and have soooooo much devotion for Turkey, that on two occasions in recent weeks, they have sent Turkey a very simple and very loud message ...

ASIHKTIR TURKEY

... and they'll be marching again with the same message in a couple of days.

All hot air with no real effect on anything, you can speculate and build it up as much as you want but it amounts to nothing. If no one is taking notice or willing to support them, then it means absolutely nothing.

Not me guilty of inflating and stoking things up VP... you should speak to the Unions representing the Teachers and Civil Servants and other workers who are the back-bone of the economy, people living under the Turkish Occupation who are upping the ante on this, and are promising a more vociferous campaign.

by **Viewpoint** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:09 am

Being honest what do you think will change? Turkey provides the financial support which pays their salaries, and the GCs have turned their backs as per the norm, do you really think they will stand up to Turkey? and how will they do this refuse to accept their salaries? It will amount to nothing once again, how long do you need to realize what I am saying is right?

by **ZoC** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:16 am

Viewpoint wrote:Being honest what do you think will change? Turkey provides the financial support which pays their salaries, and the GCs have turned their backs as per the norm, do you really think they will stand up to Turkey? and how will they do this refuse to accept their salaries? It will amount to nothing once again, how long do you need to realize what I am saying is right?

he's got a point billy boy... have u ever known viewpoint to be wrong about anything? :lol:

by **ZoC** » Tue Apr 05, 2011 12:24 am

ZoC wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Being honest what do you think will change? Turkey provides the financial support which pays their salaries, and the GCs have turned their backs as per the norm, do you really think they will stand up to Turkey? and how will they do this refuse to accept their salaries? It will amount to nothing once again, how long do you need to realize what I am saying is right?

he's got a point billy boy... have u ever known viewpoint to be wrong about anything?

if u do, i'll buy u and ur missus a free night at the cratos hotel where linda and david orams are back for one night only... performing live as a "peters and lee" tribute act...