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Postby Get Real! » Tue May 24, 2011 11:11 am

erolz3 wrote:http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200405/cmselect/cmfaff/113/11305.htm#n124

80. After careful consideration, we conclude that it was right that all those on the electoral roll in northern Cyprus were able to participate in the referendum held in April 2004, and we recommend that the same arrangements should apply in respect of any future referendum on a solution to the Cyprus problem.

The best indicator of what was “right” and what was “wrong” in the AP, is the outright rejection of the entire scheme! :lol:
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue May 24, 2011 11:51 am

erolz3 wrote:http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200405/cmselect/cmfaff/113/11305.htm#n124

80. After careful consideration, we conclude that it was right that all those on the electoral roll in northern Cyprus were able to participate in the referendum held in April 2004, and we recommend that the same arrangements should apply in respect of any future referendum on a solution to the Cyprus problem.


Careful consideration... My Bum!

Since when has the GB Parliament been the arbiter of what is right or wrong in CY???

Why is there no ref in this carefully considered report to the Geneva Convention?
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Postby B25 » Tue May 24, 2011 12:08 pm

bill cobbett wrote:
erolz3 wrote:http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200405/cmselect/cmfaff/113/11305.htm#n124

80. After careful consideration, we conclude that it was right that all those on the electoral roll in northern Cyprus were able to participate in the referendum held in April 2004, and we recommend that the same arrangements should apply in respect of any future referendum on a solution to the Cyprus problem.


Careful consideration... My Bum!

Since when has the GB Parliament been the arbiter of what is right or wrong in CY???

Why is there no ref in this carefully considered report to the Geneva Convention?

I guess the UK would afford the same rights to the 500,000+ illegal immigrants estimated to be in the UK. Exactly what rights do illegal immigrants have, apart from breathing the same air.
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Postby Kikapu » Tue May 24, 2011 3:46 pm

erolz3 wrote:http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200405/cmselect/cmfaff/113/11305.htm#n124

80. After careful consideration, we conclude that it was right that all those on the electoral roll in northern Cyprus were able to participate in the referendum held in April 2004, and we recommend that the same arrangements should apply in respect of any future referendum on a solution to the Cyprus problem.


When the Illegal Alien settlers were allowed to vote in the 2004 Referendum, those who understood what the AP was all about, voted "YES" for it, along with all the NeoPartitionists, as well as ALL the other TCs who may have genuinely though that the AP was a "peace plan" for a unified Cyprus. Little did they know that they were voting to giving control of the north to Turkey exclusively and also Turkey controlling the whole island as a guarantor. It also meant that Turkey would have been able to interfere in the EU's affairs indirectly through the puppets in the north state.The north's "YES" vote had been milked by the north and Turkey ever since to get the EU and the world to open trade with the north to no avail. But the "YES" vote did not bring all the so called promises made to them by their leaders or anyone else for that matter.

But now that the present talks are based on more democratic "peace plan" by sending all the Illegal Aliens back to Turkey, minus the 50,000 who may have a connections to a TC one way or another, you will find that these same Illegal Alien settlers who may have voted a "YES" before, just because almost most of them would have been able to stay after the 2004 referendum, will now vote a "NO". So where will that leave the Real TCs? Basically, the "monster" that the north's leaders created to increase the north's population numbers as "TCs" in the past is going to come back and bite them in the ass since they now outnumber the TCs by a large majority, which is now why the north does not want any future Illegal Alien settlers who are given a "trnc citizenship" to be able to vote, run for office or be employed in the public sector. Talk about a rude awakening and talk about such Racist policy, not that the north is not accustomed to racist policies in the first place. Just how long does the north think they can prevent these "new TCs" as "trnc citizens" not to be able to vote, run for office or apply for public sector jobs.? My guess is, not for very long. As soon as Turkey threatens the north to cut their funds, it will be time to get the Vaseline out for the Real TCs for some more "Grease Jobs".


Under the title “5800 citizenships”, Turkish Cypriot daily Havadis reports that the self-styled government of the breakaway regime is preparing a new “law” for massively giving rights to those waiting to obtain the “citizenship” of the regime and gain the right of becoming “citizens”.

The paper writes that if the “draft-law” is implemented without any amendments, “white card” will be given to those who work “legally” for eight years in the occupied area of Cyprus, to those who work for 14 years with interruption but completed a period of eight years of “legal” continuous work in occupied Cyprus and to those who live “illegally” in occupied Cyprus without taking into consideration whether they have “work permit”.

The “citizenship” of the regime will be granted to the foreigners who were born in occupied Cyprus and completed their 18th year of age and to the members of the so-called separated families.

The paper reports that the holders of “white card” will not have the right to vote and to be elected or to be employed as “civil servants”.


http://famagusta-gazette.com/more-settl ... 11-123.htm
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Postby Kikapu » Tue May 24, 2011 5:34 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:CT's maybe.


deniz do you or have you ever lived in the TRNC?


Yes, I have lived in Cyprus. I was also there two months ago and met my brothers too. I also felt the pulse of TCs. Not all agree with what I believe in but I was surprised at the number of people who do. You too have seen these people the via media.

What is this? A 100 questions. :lol:


I have lived here for the last 20 years could there be a possibility that I have more of a understanding of the average TCs viewpoint than you?

Of course there are people that agree with you but they are not Mr Average.


Your view points are extreme. TC's I know disgree with most of your ideas. Some ofcourse do. Even I agree with some of your points.


Really which points do you find extreme?


TAKSIM


Do you know why I support taksim?


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Thanks for the confirmation. :lol:

Hence the reason why you and the NeoPartitionist are not serious about a settlement based on the EU Principles, because it will deny them Taksim, just as my plan did. So it's not that I have a bad plan for Cypriots, but ONLY a bad plan for the NeoPartitionists.

No wonder the AP is so missed by the Neopartitionist that they held a 7th Anniversary vigil to it recently for it's demise in 2004. :lol:


You still dont get it do you....its because i saw right through your flawed sell out plan and rejected it you refuse to bury it.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

You are beginning to sound like the "village idiot" by claiming you saw something. :lol:

Just admit it, that it closed out your Taksim dreams, that's all. :wink:
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Postby Kikapu » Tue May 24, 2011 5:37 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
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kurupetos wrote:Anyone supporting AP-like 'solution' plans is a partitionist. It doesn't matter if (s)he is a GC or TC. :wink:


So the majority of TCs who voted for the AP like me are in your opinion partitionists....this proves that i am an average TC.


The majority of the voters were Turkish settlers. You are probably one of them. :wink:


New or old generation TCs they are all recognized by the UN and world.


Really.?? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Have these "new" TCs gotten their EU passports yet, just like the "old" TCs have.? :wink:
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Postby Kikapu » Tue May 24, 2011 5:43 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
quattro wrote:
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kurupetos wrote:Anyone supporting AP-like 'solution' plans is a partitionist. It doesn't matter if (s)he is a GC or TC. :wink:


So the majority of TCs who voted for the AP like me are in your opinion partitionists....this proves that i am an average TC.



The right word might be mislead :wink: :wink:


What ever word you may use is irrelevant because for GCs the AP meant partition and for us it was union, so now do you understand the unbridgable chasm?


:lol: :lol: :lol:

Are you not contradicting yourself ?

How can someone like you who wants Taksim would want a Union also.? :? :?

So naturally, you must have seen the disguised partition in the AP for you to have voted for it, even if most of others who irrationally voted for the AP did not see it, TCs and GCs alike.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue May 24, 2011 6:01 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
kurupetos wrote:Anyone supporting AP-like 'solution' plans is a partitionist. It doesn't matter if (s)he is a GC or TC. :wink:


So the majority of TCs who voted for the AP like me are in your opinion partitionists....this proves that i am an average TC.


The majority of the voters were Turkish settlers. You are probably one of them. :wink:


New or old generation TCs they are all recognized by the UN and world.


Really.?? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Have these "new" TCs gotten their EU passports yet, just like the "old" TCs have.? :wink:


No they have TRNC passports, whats that got to do with anything any referendum will be voted on by both new and old TCs and this represents 50% of the decision making process.
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Postby Kikapu » Tue May 24, 2011 6:23 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
kurupetos wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
kurupetos wrote:Anyone supporting AP-like 'solution' plans is a partitionist. It doesn't matter if (s)he is a GC or TC. :wink:


So the majority of TCs who voted for the AP like me are in your opinion partitionists....this proves that i am an average TC.


The majority of the voters were Turkish settlers. You are probably one of them. :wink:


New or old generation TCs they are all recognized by the UN and world.


Really.?? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Have these "new" TCs gotten their EU passports yet, just like the "old" TCs have.? :wink:


No they have TRNC passports, whats that got to do with anything any referendum will be voted on by both new and old TCs and this represents 50% of the decision making process.


Having a "trnc" passport does not make them Cypriots and without being Cypriots, they cannot be Turkish Cypriots. The only thing the "trnc" passport allows them to do, is to buy as much stolen land as they want. Other than that, the "trnc" passport has ZERO value.

If you were happy to allow the settlers to vote in a referendum before, why is your regime want to deny any new "trnc citizens" to vote, run for office or work as a civil servant.? Are you not being Racists towards your "new TCs" brothers.? :lol:

Read below link.

http://famagusta-gazette.com/more-settl ... 11-123.htm
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue May 24, 2011 7:13 pm

Can the new generation and old generation TCs vote? if there was a referendum tomorrow would the weight of these votes be equal to that of the GC side? the other crap you have support with a GC paper is neither here nor there just a deflection from having to face reality.
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