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[denizaksulu]

Anyone supporting AP-like 'solution' plans is a partitionist. It doesn't matter if (s)he is a GC or TC.

Never mind Annan....what happened to ELAM? when are you migrating?

ELAM? I'm no ELAM supporter my friend.

Did I accuse you of being Elam?
Arent you Yialoosers twin brother?

I easily get confused....especially when you call me 'friend'.

[kurupetos]

Anyone supporting AP-like 'solution' plans is a partitionist. It doesn't matter if (s)he is a GC or TC.

Never mind Annan....what happened to ELAM? when are you migrating?

ELAM? I'm no ELAM supporter my friend.

Did I accuse you of being Elam?
Arent you Yialoosers twin brother?

I easily get confused....especially when you call me 'friend'.

[Viewpoint]

Anyone supporting AP-like 'solution' plans is a partitionist. It doesn't matter if (s)he is a GC or TC.

So the majority of TCs who voted for the AP like me are in your opinion partitionists....this proves that i am an average TC.

[Viewpoint]

CT's maybe.

deniz do you or have you ever lived in the TRNC?

Yes, I have lived in Cyprus. I was also there two months ago and met my brothers too. I also felt the pulse of TCs. Not all agree with what I believe in but I was surprised at the number of people who do. You too have seen these people the via media.

What is this? A 100 questions.

I have lived here for the last 20 years could there be a possibility that I have more of a understanding of the average TCs viewpoint than you?

Of course there are people that agree with you but they are not Mr Average.

Your view points are extreme. TC's I know disgree with most of your ideas. Some ofcourse do. Even I agree with some of your points.

Really which points do you find extreme?

TAKSIM

Do you know why I support taksim?

Thanks for the confirmation.

Hence the reason why you and the NeoPartitionist are not serious about a settlement based on the EU Principles, because it will deny them Taksim, just as my plan did. So it's not that I have a bad plan for Cypriots, but ONLY a bad plan for the NeoPartitionists.

No wonder the AP is so missed by the Neopartitionist that they held a 7th Anniversary vigil to it recently for it's demise in 2004.

You still dont get it do you....its because i saw right through your flawed sell out plan and rejected it you refuse to bury it.

[quattro]

Anyone supporting AP-like 'solution' plans is a partitionist. It doesn't matter if (s)he is a GC or TC.

So the majority of TCs who voted for the AP like me are in your opinion partitionists....this proves that i am an average TC.

The right word might be mislead

[Viewpoint]

Anyone supporting AP-like 'solution' plans is a partitionist. It doesn't matter if (s)he is a GC or TC.

So the majority of TCs who voted for the AP like me are in your opinion partitionists....this proves that i am an average TC.

The right word might be mislead

What ever word you may use is irrelevant because for GCs the AP meant partition and for us it was union, so now do you understand the unbridgable chasm?

[quattro]

Anyone supporting AP-like 'solution' plans is a partitionist. It doesn't matter if (s)he is a GC or TC.

So the majority of TCs who voted for the AP like me are in your opinion partitionists....this proves that i am an average TC.

The right word might be mislead

What ever word you may use is irrelevant because for GCs the AP meant partition and for us it was union, so now do you understand the unbridgable chasm?

hey vp that is what the average TC believes :

Güneyde “hayır” oyu %76’dır. Ne demektir bu? Kıbrıslıların çok büyük çoğunluğu “hayır” dedi. İngiliz, Amerikan, Türk tuzağına.
Kuzeyde “evet” deyenlerin büyük çoğunluğu nedir? TC yurttaşlarının oyları...

İyi şölenler...

[kurupetos]

Anyone supporting AP-like 'solution' plans is a partitionist. It doesn't matter if (s)he is a GC or TC.

So the majority of TCs who voted for the AP like me are in your opinion partitionists....this proves that i am an average TC.

The majority of the voters were Turkish settlers. You are probably one of them.

[Viewpoint]

Anyone supporting AP-like 'solution' plans is a partitionist. It doesn't matter if (s)he is a GC or TC.

So the majority of TCs who voted for the AP like me are in your opinion partitionists....this proves that i am an average TC.

The majority of the voters were Turkish settlers. You are probably one of them.

New or old generation TCs they are all recognized by the UN and world.

[kurupetos]

76. To many Greek Cypriots, the question of how many settlers voted for the Plan and whether they swung the vote (clearly, they did not) is irrelevant—the point is that as illegal immigrants they should not have been allowed to vote at all.[121] The Greek Cypriot leadership naturally raised this point with Mr Annan during the negotiating process, pointing out various precedents and legal opinions.[122] In his 'good offices' report, the Secretary-General noted that the Greek Cypriot side had proposed that voting in the referendum should be limited to those who had Cypriot citizenship in 1963 and their descendants.[123] The report refers to the "apparent impracticability" of this proposal and that it would have required the Turkish Cypriots to accept the Greek Cypriot interpretation of the history of their island in the early 1960s. In the event, despite "persistent, repeated calls" by the Greek Cypriot side to disenfranchise the settlers, they were allowed to vote in the referendum.[124] As Lord Hannay put it,

The voting rolls which existed for Turkish Cypriot parliamentary elections and Turkish Cypriot presidential elections were in existence and they were what they were. I think it was generally agreed, and indeed the Greek Cypriots knew all about this, that this was a valid basis on which to seek an opinion.[125]

77. The arguments against allowing settlers to vote were undoubtedly strong. We acknowledge the force of the case made by the government of the Republic of Cyprus and we note that the electoral rolls in the North clearly include information on when voters attained 'citizenship'.[126] It would thus have been feasible to restrict the vote in the North to those born on the island, most of whom are Turkish Cypriot citizens of the Republic of Cyprus. Against this, however, it has to be remembered that the fate of the settlers, too, was being determined. Their right to remain on the island was at stake. Most of the settlers also consider themselves to be 'citizens' of the 'TRNC,' to which they pay their taxes and under whose laws they live. Their interests cannot, however, be ignored or dismissed.

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/p ... 5.htm#n124